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Since when does Grok 4.6 have Sol 5.6's intelligence? I don't believe it.
Why not?
Because it’s good on benchmarks but not on real usage?
GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
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#22Do other people find 5.6 to be worse at most simple tasks and frequently over complicate things? I asked it to write a user todo and it turned out a four page essay. I gave the same task to 5.4 and got the small list of checkboxes I expected.
I've found it to be great for planning code changes (or new projects). I use the superpowers plug-in which I think guides the planning.
Then I switch models (to luna) before implementation. I find this combo nearly always does what I want.
I also use a skill called ponytail, its goal is to keep things terse and edits small. It may have contributed to the successes above.
I like that skills are easy to try out, too.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#23No ZDR. No dice.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#24Price wars did wonders for many businesses, like the bike sharing industry in China. Overgrown datacenters or mounds of GPUs dumped into the harbour next ?
I would in such a scenario expect the GPUs to be dumped to industrial breakers who would send them to China for refurbishment and repackaging before being sold again on Amazon, AliExpress, and Taobao as last gen gaming cards from weird brands and specs.
This is what happened after the great crypto GPU dumping.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#25I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.
I can’t sign up for that. I tried authorizing Codex a couple days ago. For some reason, their system says my phone number has been used for verification 3 times even though it definitely has not. I’ve had this phone number for over 20 years. OpenAI support is useless. They just keep repeating the policy without actually helping me.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#26Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#27The title looks to be misleading, since this price cut is limited to OpenRouter. It does not apply for the native OpenAI price listed at https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-sol
Which raises the question - who is subsidizing this, and why?
Possibly OAI? If you have OAI tokens you are a captive audience. If you have OpenRouter you are bidding on a free market.
OpenRouter attributes this promotion to OpenAI https://x.com/OpenRouter/status/2089416739398254662
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#28If they can cut the price of Sol by 50% and the price of Luna by 80%, then the original price might have carried a massive operating margin. They might still be serving the models at a profit after these price cuts, but we will never know.
I don’t think there’s a real answer for this. Margin depends on whatever number the accounting department wants to make up.
Do you include research and training costs? Of all models or only the ones being served? What percent of the R&D budget do you allocate to inference? What about data center capacity? Do you count future commitments? All the circular financing deals? Do you count employee equity grants as costs? At what valuation?
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter
#29If they can cut the price of Sol by 50% and the price of Luna by 80%, then the original price might have carried a massive operating margin. They might still be serving the models at a profit after these price cuts, but we will never know.
OpenAI didn't cut the price of Sol by 50% like they did with Luna's 80%. Sol was unchanged. This is just a limited promo for OpenRouter non-BYOK.
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#30Price wars did wonders for many businesses, like the bike sharing industry in China. Overgrown datacenters or mounds of GPUs dumped into the harbour next ?
I would in such a scenario expect the GPUs to be dumped to industrial breakers who would send them to China for refurbishment and repackaging before being sold again on Amazon, AliExpress, and Taobao as last gen gaming cards from weird brands and specs. This is what happened after the great crypto GPU dumping.
Yeah, I ment it as a joke - I agree with you. Watched the Gamers Nexus GPU investigation recently, where they were shown how a chinese soldering shop can transplant GPU chips to a new board, including memory chip reuse.
Hopefully we can look forward to all that useless datacenter AI crap gets repurposed in a similar manner into something actually useful for users.