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Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

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Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

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No-one is in charge of Windows. Or more specifically, the people in charge of Windows have no clue about anything. Satya Nadella has trashed Xbox and trashed Windows.

Most knowledgeable devs from Windows glory days have already retired, or were clever and moved into Azure.

Now they get interns that never heard of Petzold and can only do Web, hence the Webview2 all over the place.

Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

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Why Windows Entreprise PCs have 'Images', 'Videos' and 'Music' folders that can't be deleted is beyond me. If I want to store music on my work PC I can create a folder for that, but why force it on me??

1. You can move those folders to other locations. I used to do that in the Windows XP days.

2. They are required because applications can ask Windows "what is the 'music' folder" and get back the path. Most of those applications won't expect a missing folder.

Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

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post #17
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's not about you, it's about grandma. And when Microsoft bakes these locations in as standard, they can't be deleted because applications are allowed to depend on them being there.

But grandma doesn't use an Entreprise version now does she?

No, but the IT guy likes to install software that depends on it, because it is very rare that Windows devs only target a specific OS variant.

Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

#24

I dearly hope Apple doesn’t fall for this and just lets the Preview app, well, preview files. Incredible how far macOS and Linux ended up ahead experience wise by doing nothing and just letting apps do their jobs and nothing more.

> by doing nothing and just letting apps do their jobs and nothing more Like the elaborate fuckups that included: • destroying iTunes and the ersatz replacement Music/TV apps that no one asked for • ruining iPhoto and forcing everyone onto Photos • breaking backwards compatibility 80,000 times, including on their expensive Pro apps • the Final Cut Pro X debacle • nearly every change in iOS for the last five years

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Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

#25

This is not the worst enterprise failure Microsoft has pushed from inadequate testing in recent memory. Around 2021, the Defender enterprise second tier plan pushed out under-tested defs that considered most desktop and start menu shortcuts to be "malware", and removed them silently. Users by the 100's/1k's freaked out when it looked like their apps were removed, causing nothing short a help desk sev 1 emergency.

Are we certain it's even the worst thing they've done this quarter?

Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

#26
post #14
post #10

Why Windows Entreprise PCs have 'Images', 'Videos' and 'Music' folders that can't be deleted is beyond me. If I want to store music on my work PC I can create a folder for that, but why force it on me??

Because it's not about you, it's about grandma. And when Microsoft bakes these locations in as standard, they can't be deleted because applications are allowed to depend on them being there.

Grandma has been using a smartphone as her primary computing device for over a decade.

Re: Microsoft Responds to Outcry After Quiet Enterprise Install of Beta 'Photos' App

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post #10

Why Windows Entreprise PCs have 'Images', 'Videos' and 'Music' folders that can't be deleted is beyond me. If I want to store music on my work PC I can create a folder for that, but why force it on me??

To be fair, a lot of programs rely on those standard directories from the "Known Folders" specification - it would be hard to rip them out without breaking a lot of software. Even on linux it's hard to get away from these directories, as virtually every distro ships with xdg-user-dirs. Even if you use Arch, you'll probably install xdg-user-dirs with Gnome or KDE which creates those directories on login.
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