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Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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It's interesting that I had to close 3 popups just to read this article, two of them were for tracking cookies

GDPR popups remind me of the spam popups of the 90s.

No, maliciously compliant scumbag companies did that.

You don’t need a cookie banner for functional cookies, and opt out should be a single button.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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post #14

It's interesting that I had to close 3 popups just to read this article, two of them were for tracking cookies

Agreed. It's horrible and stupid. I actually run a service in the EU and I don't present that nonsense even with the risk of being sued.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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It's important to note while people are pumping the AI bubble that a near-moron with a checklist can do this job. They replaced AI with a regular old phone tree.

AI couldn't do this job with a checklist. It would forget the entire checklist after two responses, then get fixated on the words that the customer used to complain about how dumb the AI was and loop until they hung up and called back to hopefully clear the context.

edit: Unless Kinney had been sold a product that used caller ID to carry over context, then the customer's best chances would be to scream "Agent!" over and over again (to get put on hold for 45 minutes, then transferred to the most screamed-at Philippine minimum-wage gig worker on the planet), or to show up to the drugstore and start screaming at people.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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So - I run a company that does AI agents for pharmacy. We are at Series B now and growing well - series C in 9-12 months given growth. We just acquired a competitor of that vendor so very much an insider.

First, The technology works, and it scales, but the whole bottleneck is domain expertise and implementation. These are expensive, and hard to scale. We hire pharmacists as project managers, that's how important domain expertise and implementations are.

Second, the amount of noise of "Voice AI for " is incredible. Most of them are completely clueless about the industry & basically "YC-striver" type who can only sell to other yc companies. They fail hard the moment they touch critical functions of the real world.

We have hundreds of pharmacies with us now and they mostly successful and happy. Our biggest friction is customers being burned by vendors like this and writing off AI altogether as "not ready".

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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post #15

if you've tried to legitimately productionize LLMs to deliver a specific repeatable outcome, rather than human editable output(text, code), you know the models still aren't there yet and the whole product experience feels hacky

Not to mention insecure.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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Pharmacy phone lines are a terrible first use case for voice AI. Older callers, drug names, insurance mess, zero patience. Automating "store hours" is fine. Automating refill exceptions is how you get this outcome.

I just don't get why we're not doing it vertically like you said here. Implement a part of the cognitive work using AI but let the hard parts be done by a person. They're still gonna be more rich, just less so.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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So - I run a company that does AI agents for pharmacy. We are at Series B now and growing well - series C in 9-12 months given growth. We just acquired a competitor of that vendor so very much an insider. First, The technology works, and it scales, but the whole bottleneck is domain expertise and implementation. These are expensive, and hard to scale. We hire pharmacists as project managers, that's how important doma…

Make it so the parts that are done by AI are rock solid, until then, they shouldn't be near a customer and be done by humans. Resist the greed!
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