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Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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Could just, you know, pay more…

Why not make housing cost less instead?

Because we’ve been sold the story that your house has to appreciate in value 2-3 times over the period you live in it, consequently, homeowners vote against anything that lowers housing costs.

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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It would allow housing to be substantially denser.

How would an LVT do that when the barrier to dense housing is zoning restrictions? Changing the tax structure doesn't remove that restriction.

An LVT addresses the incentives underling zoning. The LVT imagined by Georgists would very probably result in radically altered zoning rules. Zoning, after all, exists primarily to prop up the finances of homeowners.

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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The core fabric of society - the deal that was offered by society to the people - to work in a job, own a house, raise a family, have a retirement - has decayed away entirely for many people.

This is quite a new deal and not one enjoyed by most people for most of history.

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would an LVT do that when the barrier to dense housing is zoning restrictions? Changing the tax structure doesn't remove that restriction.

An LVT addresses the incentives underling zoning. The LVT imagined by Georgists would very probably result in radically altered zoning rules. Zoning, after all, exists primarily to prop up the finances of homeowners.

A Georgist LVT is based on the value of the bare land, which is constrained by permitted uses. Adopting it without first removing zoning restrictions would increase the incentive for homeowners to defend the existing zoning rules, since the removal of the rules would increase the scope of alternative uses of the land in ways which would make it economically impossible for most existing single family homeowners to afford the taxes on the property.

On the other hand, once you remove the zoning restrictions, the existing economic incentives will produce densification without LVT, tbat's the whole thing the zoning restrictions exist to stop.

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An LVT addresses the incentives underling zoning. The LVT imagined by Georgists would very probably result in radically altered zoning rules. Zoning, after all, exists primarily to prop up the finances of homeowners.

A Georgist LVT is based on the value of the bare land, which is constrained by permitted uses. Adopting it without first removing zoning restrictions would increase the incentive for homeowners to defend the existing zoning rules, since the removal of the rules would increase the scope of alternative uses of the land in ways which would make it economically impossible for most existing single family homeowners to aff…

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Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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The core fabric of society - the deal that was offered by society to the people - to work in a job, own a house, raise a family, have a retirement - has decayed away entirely for many people.

This is quite a new deal and not one enjoyed by most people for most of history.

Is that not how the 95% of the population of farmers lived before industrialization? The only difference is the job being their own farm or trade.

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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The core fabric of society - the deal that was offered by society to the people - to work in a job, own a house, raise a family, have a retirement - has decayed away entirely for many people.

This is quite a new deal and not one enjoyed by most people for most of history.

What is the purpose of what you're saying? Because people lived like serfs and slaves for a lot of history, we should be okay with that?

I don't mean to be shitty, and I fully understand that contrary takes are what HN is great at, but I genuinely fail to see what the point of your comment is other than a knee jerk nothing?

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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Could just, you know, pay more…

Teachers in major metro school systems already have quite a good deal. Rural schoolteachers really do have the deal everyone heard about in 1990s politics, but urban schoolteachers are generally economically privileged. (That doesn't mean they aren't impacted by housing scarcity in ways that disrupt the administration of school systems; they are. But the problem isn't compensation, the problem is corrupt regulation w…

I genuinely need to see what data you're citing with this statement. Until recently, I worked in education and often worked with urban schools. Starting salaries of 55-60k/year living in a major metropolitan area is not what I would call economically privileged.

Re: To recruit teachers, school districts are building homes

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would an LVT do that when the barrier to dense housing is zoning restrictions? Changing the tax structure doesn't remove that restriction.

An LVT addresses the incentives underling zoning. The LVT imagined by Georgists would very probably result in radically altered zoning rules. Zoning, after all, exists primarily to prop up the finances of homeowners.

An LVT results in new McMansions getting built on quarter acre lots and being taxed at the same rate as SFHs and trailers on quarter acre lots. It's the perfect way to allow rich people to buy out poor people and pay the same tax as poor people. Welcome to unintended consequences. Institute an LVT if you want, but don't expect low cost housing to spring up.
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