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FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

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Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#21

We're quickly reaching the point where Lidar isn't needed, pure vision workflows are getting much better.

yeah, who could ever need accurate and immediate depth perception, having to carry a 4090 in my roomba to badly reconstruct it from 4 pictures so it can stop bumping into walls is like the future man

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

US companies don't even sell consumer drones, so are they going to stay competitive by forcing consumers to buy $4000 enterprise models for their kids to play with?

Hobbyist drones also don't ship with lidar in stock. The concern isn't China dominating the area of $20 toys. The concern is platforms relevant to industry and military. Whether that, in turn, can be disentangled from "the area of $20 toys" in case of drones is unclear to me.

That is false. DJI Air 3S, Mini 5 Pro, Mavic 4 Pro, and even the Neo 2 are consumer drones that ship with forward-facing LiDAR for obstacle avoidance.

FCC proposal doesn’t distinguish that safety sensor from mapping-grade or military LiDAR - it covers any drone that “contains or integrates” LiDAR.

If Air and Mini ain't hobbyist grade idk what is.

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#23

Another move to remove competition for Don Jr.?

That, or to avoid surrendering yet another technology relevant to the future to China. As if them manufacturing the bulk of world's solar panels, wind turbines and heading for EVs isn't bad enough.

I mean, the rest of the world still exists and is generally happy to buy reasonably priced Chinese tech. American isolationists get rather carried away by geography to the point of assuming the rest of world is in a state of cinematic collapse with a few super enemies stalking the ruins. Trump's comments the other day suggesting he's capable of destroying the Swiss economy overnight demonstrate a sort of socioeconomic myopia predicated on the idea that the US is the only consumer market that matters.

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#24
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US companies don't even sell consumer drones, so are they going to stay competitive by forcing consumers to buy $4000 enterprise models for their kids to play with?

Hobbyist drones also don't ship with lidar in stock. The concern isn't China dominating the area of $20 toys. The concern is platforms relevant to industry and military. Whether that, in turn, can be disentangled from "the area of $20 toys" in case of drones is unclear to me.

> Hobbyist drones also don't ship with lidar in stock.

Is Neo a $20 toy? LIDARs are getting cheap quick, at some point when ToF sensors add $10 to BoM they will be in all drones.. I guess except US only SKUs? Not like you can't get pretty much the same data using just a single camera, GPS+IMU fusion and structure-from-motion..

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#25

Another move to remove competition for Don Jr.?

That, or to avoid surrendering yet another technology relevant to the future to China. As if them manufacturing the bulk of world's solar panels, wind turbines and heading for EVs isn't bad enough.

If we cared enough to be effective, we would be subsidizing / encouraging local manufacture of all of those at a competitive, non-luxury price.

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#26

Another move to remove competition for Don Jr.?

That, or to avoid surrendering yet another technology relevant to the future to China. As if them manufacturing the bulk of world's solar panels, wind turbines and heading for EVs isn't bad enough.

China has been leading in drones since a very long time. It’s not something they took from the US

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#27

We're quickly reaching the point where Lidar isn't needed, pure vision workflows are getting much better.

Well, Elon thought that too and we still haven't seen any robotaxi

Hearing its definitely going to happen by the end of the year

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That, or to avoid surrendering yet another technology relevant to the future to China. As if them manufacturing the bulk of world's solar panels, wind turbines and heading for EVs isn't bad enough.

If we cared enough to be effective, we would be subsidizing / encouraging local manufacture of all of those at a competitive, non-luxury price.

That would need to start with building the manufacturing infrastructure. But that requires to work on long term goals, something the west hasn’t been doing that well over the last 30+ years

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#29
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Elon thought that too and we still haven't seen any robotaxi

Hearing its definitely going to happen by the end of the year

Maybe when he’s back from his visit on Mars?

Re: FCC moves to ban Lidar-equipped foreign drones from US

#30

We're quickly reaching the point where Lidar isn't needed, pure vision workflows are getting much better.

Well, Elon thought that too and we still haven't seen any robotaxi

Since last month they are operational in multiple states now.

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