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What happens if you put work into the second dimension?

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Re: What happens if you put work into the second dimension?

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post #18

It's basically already been said but, this seems absurd. I'm not quite sure what TRUE benefit you'd get from this but it seems more frustrating than it's worth. I can't figure out a reason to do this unless I'm just in the mood to piss myself off.

The collaborative feature seems like it would be useful, especially for remote teams.

Re: What happens if you put work into the second dimension?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What happens if you put all your browser tabs in two dimensions? > Answer: you get a mess. > That's why browsers weren't built like that But people frequently go out of their way to put their tabs into two dimensions. There are tab trees: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tabtree/afejdkkhibi... There are tab groups: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups There are tab containers: https://addons.mozi…

FYI those Firefox containers have little to nothing to do with organizing tabs spatially, it just lets you have different 'profiles' to open tabs in that can all have separate cookies and so lets you be logged into different accounts on the same website for one example/use case.

I know that. They define an additional dimension to the tabs. Most dimensions aren't spatial.

Re: What happens if you put work into the second dimension?

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Very cool interface and reminiscent of figma/excalidraw in the way they provide an infinite 2d canvas for shapes and figures. Most tools of these types tend to implement layers as well, which might be loosely analogous to multiple desktops and could be a neat interface element to explore. The impetus for layering in a drawing tool is very different from the impetus for doing such in a desktop windowing tool. The 3d d…

I played with XR UX years back. Three quick thoughts.

I liked a hierarchy of context switching devices. Open tabs, windows, workspaces, for me are distracting clutter, scaled by some distance metric. Having to physically carry a laptop to elsewhere in a room had "I've left work for home" nicely strong context switching vibes. Followed by resumable-but-not-currently-live VMs/workspaces, etc, down to, well, gazing at a different window. So variety in costs and benefits.

I wanted a drawing-like experience for a laptop keyboard, eyes-on-screen hands-on-tablet, so kbd as touch surface (and 3D tracking above it), with the screen showing, in faint shallow-3D offset, hand position and a dynamic kbd UI. Meh. But shallow-3D UI, something 3D one can live with all day without VAC eyestrain, seemed intriguing but little explored.

With current AI, even with small 1080p laptop/HMD viewports encouraging manual packing, I'd be tempted to try escaping the whole decades-long "how do I arrange windows" mess, and tool up a personal-assistant-like "knowing what you're currently up to, here's a screens/canvases/workspaces/windows tasteful layout for that, arranged in ways you've liked".

Re: What happens if you put work into the second dimension?

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post #18

It's basically already been said but, this seems absurd. I'm not quite sure what TRUE benefit you'd get from this but it seems more frustrating than it's worth. I can't figure out a reason to do this unless I'm just in the mood to piss myself off.

I can’t help but see this as a productivity illusion. “Hey now I really can work on three things at once”. Then someone asks you a question a week later and you have zero memory of doing anything with that project.

Re: What happens if you put work into the second dimension?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this stuff was huge for a while, 20-25 years ago, digital libraries, information exploration, ... consider even things like minority report, or more prosaically, all the demos coming out of MIT medialab. It never really caught on, completed got clobbered by free text search, now AI chat interfaces I guess. Am glad to see it bubble up again, because have good memories working on this stuff.

> this stuff was huge for a while, 20-25 years ago If I recall correctly, it became popular because of the Lawnmower Man movie in '92.

I always think of Johnny Mnemonic when I see such interfaces. One of the reasons I got into computers as kid. Hackers (1995) also had a great (Hollywood) computer interface that shares some similarities with it.
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