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It does seem a little hypocritical when the entire iPhone requires you to sign in with an Apple account. You think they're not tracking search data in the Maps app?
How so? You can use the phone just fine without an Apple account - you just won't be able to download any apps. Bookmarks in Maps works without having to sign into anything.
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I'm not sure upgrading was possible. The old maps app was actually made entirely by Apple while this new one is made entirely by Google. I can't imagine Apple would give a third-party a system level app. Just look at YouTube. The same reasons why Apple wouldn't package Google Maps with iOS are the same reasons Google wouldn't package iTunes with Android. You don't want to concede ground to your competition. Now if th…
Right. It wasn't possible for one single reason: Apple wouldn't allow it . So, yes, I think it's right to blame Apple.
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Right. It wasn't possible for one single reason: Apple wouldn't allow it . So, yes, I think it's right to blame Apple.
Blame them for not giving ground to their competitors?
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Agreed. He talks as if the old Maps app was some kind of immovable object. Obviously, we'll never know the details of the negotiation, but it could have worked out considerably better by upgrading the old Maps app to the current Google Maps app. Of course, there are many reasons why that might not the case, but the suggestion that somehow everything has worked out the best it could have possibly done is laughable.
I'm not sure upgrading was possible. The old maps app was actually made entirely by Apple while this new one is made entirely by Google. I can't imagine Apple would give a third-party a system level app. Just look at YouTube. The same reasons why Apple wouldn't package Google Maps with iOS are the same reasons Google wouldn't package iTunes with Android. You don't want to concede ground to your competition. Now if th…
Apple would never make iTunes for Android though, so it's an unfair comparison. I have every reason to believe that Google would be willing to have its Maps application be the default.
I don't think any actual users realized that Google did not write the code for the previous Maps application, it makes no difference who writes the code. It was Google Maps, that's all that mattered. Apple already has exclusive rights to approve all iOS applications, so having a third party write the code would not be any more of a risk than shipping an internal app everyone knows is powered by Google.
Leave it to Gruber to try to spin this pro-Apple: "This iOS 6 mapping saga has been a source of tremendous controversy, but here we are three months after iOS 6 was released and iPhone users now have a better Google Maps experience than they did when Google was providing the back-end data for the built-in Maps app. It all worked out." Almost like Apple planned it that way is the implication. Except the reality is tha…
"Except the reality is that his last sentence should end ", no thanks to Apple"." If Apple doesn't build it's own Maps, we still have the old shittier maps app though right? Gruber in May: "This is a high-pressure switch for Apple. Regressions will not be acceptable. The purported whiz-bang 3D view stuff might be great, but users are going to have pitchforks and torches in hand if practical stuff like driving and wal…
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Blame them for not giving ground to their competitors?
Why should I, as a user, care? I had a great feature, they replaced it with a bad one. They shouldn't have.
I would not however expect a company to do something that would harm them just to please me. They are a business trying to make money to survive. Doesn't matter if it is a massive company or small startup.
EDIT: Ideally I would have like the Google app to have come out a lot quicker than it did so the transition period was better but I'm not sure who to blame for that. Odds are it was Apple who pulled the rug out from beneath Google's feet during the negotiation but that is all here-say and conjecture. Probably 10 years from now we'll read in some book how shit went down.
Google wins, Apple wins, users win (not right after the release of iOS 6, but still). In general, the decision to remove the old Maps app was good.
And everything could have been avoided by Apple choosing to wait a few months (or, more realistically, by working with Google starting much earlier) to make sure a Google Maps app was on the market when iOS 6 was released.
Google wins, Apple wins, users win (not right after the release of iOS 6, but still). In general, the decision to remove the old Maps app was good.
And everything could have been avoided by Apple choosing to wait a few months (or, more realistically, by working with Google starting much earlier) to make sure a Google Maps app was on the market when iOS 6 was released.
If we're talking about blame for Apple Maps being sub-par, obviously that's Apple's fault.
Leave it to Gruber to try to spin this pro-Apple: "This iOS 6 mapping saga has been a source of tremendous controversy, but here we are three months after iOS 6 was released and iPhone users now have a better Google Maps experience than they did when Google was providing the back-end data for the built-in Maps app. It all worked out." Almost like Apple planned it that way is the implication. Except the reality is tha…
Well, "design" is a subjective thing, so Apple fanbois can always say that Apple has better design. Other, more impartial people[0] say that it's better designed than Apple Maps.
But can you blame Gruber? Spreading Apple propaganda is how he puts food on the table. By being an Apple shill, he gets fed insider info from his Apple sources. And the only reason anyone pays attention to him is because of those sources.
0: http://www.theverge.com/2012/12/12/3760770/google-maps-iphon...
Leave it to Gruber to try to spin this pro-Apple: "This iOS 6 mapping saga has been a source of tremendous controversy, but here we are three months after iOS 6 was released and iPhone users now have a better Google Maps experience than they did when Google was providing the back-end data for the built-in Maps app. It all worked out." Almost like Apple planned it that way is the implication. Except the reality is tha…