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Re: Octane – React’s programming model, compiled

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Interested in experimenting with Octane, wish that docs emphasized more the SSR aspect of it, because I'm looking for a Ruby/Phoenix/Php alternative in TypeScript land, and one with React-like apis would be cool.

Weren't there RedwoodJs, BlitzJs and few others that did that already?

theres gonna be a lot more at this rate. everyones tribalistic preferences about how web frameworks should be made... is never going to get solved. now everyone can just spend a week of their claude max plan making whatever framework they want. ive done it like twice now in the past year just for shits and giggles, it is fun but i wont pretend like i know where any of this is going, i think a hybrid of ssr and a blend of "the client should do some work" is probably the prevailing strats that will scale. something like aggrid is a very performant js datatable so i personally am not inclined to try and reinvent that from the backend, rather a backend has full coverage over its api surface but largely just sets/configures/sends data to but lets aggrid do what aggrid does. component models and diffing changes and all of that though and sending lil dom updates... shouldve never been purely on the front end to begin with. front end runtimes are about to get way smaller.

my favorite part of using whatever this weird ssr hybrid landscape ive been in is just not using graphql lol. i can just rawdog sql now for most things like the lords of data intended. its fantastic

Re: Octane – React’s programming model, compiled

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Just took a glance so I may be completely wrong, fell free to ignore, but if I understand correctly, tsrx is just syntactic sugar for normal tsx code and does not enable anything new?

If this is the case: I think introducing tsrx as part of Octane muddies the water a bit and makes me more hesitant to try (even if it is optional).

The idea to make tsx files more readable may be interesting but in that case it should go into its own separate project, and maybe just put a lang toggle in Octane docs and a page about tsrx compat, that way if people are intrigued by the new syntax they can just look it up but the docs stay focused.

Re: Octane – React’s programming model, compiled

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is ironic because the author works at OpenAI!

Yeah. I thought it sounded like OpenAI more than Claude, though maybe they’ve converged. It’s been a while since I used Claude.

There's enough inbreeding^W distillation happening that whatever OpenAI tone you're thinking of is probably Claude's tone (and vice-versa)

Re: Octane – React’s programming model, compiled

#30

Would look more appealing without the AI flavour. If you're vibe coding, do yourself a favor and write website copy yourself - it's the only evidence of human input or oversight your project will have.

I still think code quality itself reigns supreme. I couldn't give less of a damn about a website.
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