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Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Can anyone that works on this technology provide an honest assessment of where this technology actually stands? How much instrumentation is actually required, what the interaction quality is, how much trouble do humanoids have with in the wild daily tasks like turning doorknobs, recovering from falls, avoiding knocking into things, etc.

It’s still at GPT-1 level, but GPT-2 moment feels imminent.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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These robots look slow and not very fluid in their motions, but LLMs like ChatGPT also looked very dumb initially. If progress is as fast as LLMs , this could have massive applications in a few years.

For house keeping tasks the robotics companies love showing off... it honestly doesn't matter if it takes a robot longer than a human to clean your house. As long as it gets done before you get home from work, no big deal.

Yeah, the dishwasher takes much longer to do the dishes than I do by hand, but that's cool. That said, the dishwasher is out of the way.

I don't think we'll get household robots anytime soon. Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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All VLM, VLA models. I wonder if these architectures will reach prod before Yann LeCunn's world model JEPA startup even gets off the ground in Europe.

Welsh Labs has a great video on JEPA and robotics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYkIdXwW2AE

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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All VLM, VLA models. I wonder if these architectures will reach prod before Yann LeCunn's world model JEPA startup even gets off the ground in Europe.

A 36% success rate on screwing in a light bulb means there's probably something to LeCunn's take that VLM/VLA models aren't going to be the thing powering tomorrow's robots, but only time will tell.

Where did you get this perf metric? I couldn't find it in the release

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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These robots look slow and not very fluid in their motions, but LLMs like ChatGPT also looked very dumb initially. If progress is as fast as LLMs , this could have massive applications in a few years.

yes at 1k tok/sec i think these robots will be fast and very fluid.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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It's funny how Google is essentially trying to compete with the software side of Tesla only - Waymos (which AFAIK they plan to partner with major automakers), now this, etc.

That makes it sound like Waymo is copying Tesla when in fact Waymo has been in the works before Tesla even considered self driving.

Re: Gemini Robotics 2 brings whole body intelligence to robots

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For house keeping tasks the robotics companies love showing off... it honestly doesn't matter if it takes a robot longer than a human to clean your house. As long as it gets done before you get home from work, no big deal.

Yeah, the dishwasher takes much longer to do the dishes than I do by hand, but that's cool. That said, the dishwasher is out of the way. I don't think we'll get household robots anytime soon. Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

> Hell, the only ones that can afford them will be the same that would hire human household help.

But maybe they'd rather deal with a robot than a human?

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