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Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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kaolinite wrote: post #16

I like how you put the Facebook, FreshBooks and Mailchimp logos on there in the same style other websites use when saying who uses their product.

Some initial feedback was that people didn't know what I meant by web application. So they asked that I provide examples.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Post by charlieirish »

It's really hard to find good concise help in this area, if Nathan's previous book: http://nathanbarry.com/app-design-handbook/ is anything to go by, this should be excellent. Purchasing now.

I'm also looking forward to seeing the response from this landing page - Nathan's normally really kind about transparency when it comes to this sort of thing. Great job.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Post by nathanbarry »

Vivtek wrote: post #10

Different from , not different than . This is a grammar tic I got from Robert Heinlein, and I'm not even sure why it bugs me so much. That said, your selling page layout is brilliant. By putting the high-ticket options on top, you not only make the prices below them seem trivial, you evoke a sense of loss as the potential buyer travels down the page. Oh, and the content looks good, too, ha. Seriously - I've needed a…

Fixed. I didn't realize that was a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out.

I'm not sure what works better for pricing, so I am trying this layout as an option. I did pack a lot of awesome stuff into the complete package, so I want everyone to see it.

Re: Show HN: Designing Web Applications

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Post by t4nkd »

The "complete package" gave me sticker shock, so much that I almost closed the page then and there. It was only out of curiosity as to why the $200 price tag was worthwhile that I even kept reading to find more purchase options. It put a bad taste in my mouth, honestly, and I'm left feeling pretty confused by why you won't let me cherry pick my own interview+book package. I'm just having trouble seeing the dollar value in what you've assembled, though I'm sure if I broke out each piece of what you're offering, it'd seem like quite a deal, no one is offering "pieces" of what you're offering, so I just see the whole thing as overpriced.

I was excited to follow the development of this through the newsletter, but I'm not a customer now. Maybe if you offered to trickle out the interview content as you developed it, for some kind of $9/mo fee? I would've been on board with that, or a similar approach. Though I guess not being a total squid I might not have been your target, I was really just interested in what those accomplished professionals had to say, maybe also thumbing through the book -- which while I'm at it -- I'm also not convinced provides the kind of value a $30 price should. I was kind've under the impression you'd include some real "how-to" meat, at least periodically, but there doesn't appear to be any of that. I think I'd get more value out of "Don't Make Me Think" or "Rocket Surgery Made Easy", and I could score both in a native kindle format(for $30).

I think you probably did a lot of hard work, and I'm still tempted to spend the $200 just for the interviews; but I don't feel good enough about what I might be getting. I saw the early version of the Ryan Singer interview and it didn't leave a $200 impression. I hope you've had a lot more success selling to others who really need a comprehensive resource or don't understand many of the fundamentals, it certainly seemed like it would be more valuable for them.

Also, just as an aside, the WordPress favicon feels cheap, and worse, lazy.

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