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Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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While it's really cool that this is possible now, this project seems to be a thin wrapper around running Claude. Presumably, someone who wanted to read one of these books could just run it through Claude themselves with comparable results. Sharing some artifact of your own added value, or things you learned in the process, would be more interesting to me than the output.

I can assure you this is not a thin wrapper. Even the public repo of the first workable version of it is not a thin wrapper.

You are welcome to try. It is not rocket science, but what I developed would take much effort to reproduce.

I wrote an origin story about how I got started: https://aicentral.substack.com/p/pipeline-to-the-past

It describes some of the added value and lessons learned.

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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Professional translators don't throw around the word "impressive" like that. You don't, yet I still stand by my work. I translated some books up to four times as I refined the process. The default behavior is repeatedly to not attempt to translate text it can't resolve for whatever reason. AIs do have a tendency to hallucinate, and I expended a lot of effort on minimizing this problem to the point it can be considere…

Professional publishers collect blurbs which are attached to real names of real people, and bona fide reviewers write in full sentences with context, without

It's good enough for me. I'm not publicizing his name without permission. He is quite well-known and until I moved recently, was a neighbor of mine.

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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I think there's more to it than that. It's a combination of extracting the text from the PDFs, resolving persistently tricky issues (especially numbers), and flagging issues for human review at scale. You can view lessons from the author on the GitHub repo: https://github.com/sweisman/translation-pipeline

Great, then rather post that! Although that repo looks like 100% AI artifact, not human intervention. (What does "flagging issues for human review at scale" mean in this context?)

This is not what I use to translate. It was the first version to create usable output, and intentionally implemented in a code-free manner (today I have an extensive body of code in addition to the Claude Code harness instructions). Read my origin story, linked to in another comment, for more background.

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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While it's really cool that this is possible now, this project seems to be a thin wrapper around running Claude. Presumably, someone who wanted to read one of these books could just run it through Claude themselves with comparable results. Sharing some artifact of your own added value, or things you learned in the process, would be more interesting to me than the output.

I can assure you this is not a thin wrapper. Even the public repo of the first workable version of it is not a thin wrapper. You are welcome to try. It is not rocket science, but what I developed would take much effort to reproduce. I wrote an origin story about how I got started: https://aicentral.substack.com/p/pipeline-to-the-past It describes some of the added value and lessons learned.

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Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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Great, then rather post that! Although that repo looks like 100% AI artifact, not human intervention. (What does "flagging issues for human review at scale" mean in this context?)

I was referring to this bullet under Lessons Learned: "Manuscript translation is feasible but rough. A 14th-century Sephardic manuscript hand is readable at ~70–80% accuracy. The output is a useful rough draft, not a polished translation. Plan for a longer discrepancy report and more editorial review." Some of the samples I looked at had question marks or original Hebrew text throughout, which I took to mean marked u…

Manuscripts are doable but tougher than printed works. Hebrew likewise is tougher than Latin.

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great, then rather post that! Although that repo looks like 100% AI artifact, not human intervention. (What does "flagging issues for human review at scale" mean in this context?)

This is not what I use to translate. It was the first version to create usable output, and intentionally implemented in a code-free manner (today I have an extensive body of code in addition to the Claude Code harness instructions). Read my origin story, linked to in another comment, for more background.

Reiterating what I wrote above, sharing these would have been more interesting imo than sharing the pipeline output.

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

#27

While it's really cool that this is possible now, this project seems to be a thin wrapper around running Claude. Presumably, someone who wanted to read one of these books could just run it through Claude themselves with comparable results. Sharing some artifact of your own added value, or things you learned in the process, would be more interesting to me than the output.

I can assure you this is not a thin wrapper. Even the public repo of the first workable version of it is not a thin wrapper. You are welcome to try. It is not rocket science, but what I developed would take much effort to reproduce. I wrote an origin story about how I got started: https://aicentral.substack.com/p/pipeline-to-the-past It describes some of the added value and lessons learned.

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Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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"All translations in this collection are © Scott Weisman. All rights reserved, except as granted by the license below."

Does copyright actually belong to Scott Weisman if all the words are outputs of LLMs? Is there any relevant case law here? I'm very curious about whether LLM outputs are copyrightable by the LLM user (I'm guessing potentially it varies throughout the world).

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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"All translations in this collection are © Scott Weisman. All rights reserved, except as granted by the license below." Does copyright actually belong to Scott Weisman if all the words are outputs of LLMs? Is there any relevant case law here? I'm very curious about whether LLM outputs are copyrightable by the LLM user (I'm guessing potentially it varies throughout the world).

Yes. The rules vary worldwide. Do your own research. I did, before asserting copyright.

Re: Ars Astronomica – English translations of rare Hebrew and Latin astronomy texts

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I can assure you this is not a thin wrapper. Even the public repo of the first workable version of it is not a thin wrapper. You are welcome to try. It is not rocket science, but what I developed would take much effort to reproduce. I wrote an origin story about how I got started: https://aicentral.substack.com/p/pipeline-to-the-past It describes some of the added value and lessons learned.

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