60 Years Ago, a Submerged Submarine Circled the Globe for the First Time (2020)

But you can take that same framework/discipline/practice and adapt it to your own chosen goal viz. Science/Business/Sports/Education etc. This is what i meant in my above comment. For example, the practices of Zen Buddhism derived from Mahayana Buddhism were co-opted by the Samurai class of Japan for the performance of their duties i.e killing others or to sacrifice their own lives! This has got nothing to do with Buddhist goals but everything to do with more prosaic survival goals. Both of them are using the common philosophical/psychological/physiological (breath+body) techniques but for different purposes.

One very well-known all-encompassing framework/discipline/practice is "Ashtanga Yoga of Patanjali" detailed in the "Yoga Sutras". Read my previous comment here to understand how you can adapt it for any goal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41538322

So when a Scientist focuses his entire energies (both mental and physical) that consumes his entire self to solve some problem he is sharing a characteristic of a Yogi for that time period. So does a student preparing for an exam, an engineer focused on solving a problem, a sportsman in the "flow state" etc.

You should now be able to see the parallels in the usage of the above framework by a submariner in the environment of a submarine. Outside of it he is no longer needed to practice that framework and thus can revert to his "ordinary civilian" self if he so chooses.

If you want to study more on the above see the excellent old classic; Yoga and Western Psychology: A Comparison by Geraldine Coster - https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.189086/mode/2u...

For receiving (very very slowly) there is VLF, as the other comments have said. Can be done underwater. Think 160 character tweets that take minutes to arrive.

One option is to release a buoy that floats to the surface, waits a while and then transmits the payload. This allows the submarine to be out of the area when the transmission happens. This gets you "don't know where the sub is" but doesn't necessarily get you "didn't know there was even a sub there".

Alternatively, the submarine can come to periscope depth - so underwater but able to raise an antenna above the surface (or maybe close to it). Then something sophisticated like direct laser communication to a satellite can happen, allowing for high data rate bidirectional comms. Assuming you aren't detected by coming up, then this SHOULD allow for completely undetectable comms.

The Triton's sail is currently at the USS Triton Sail Park in Richland, WA which is just south of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation.

https://www.nps.gov/places/000/uss-triton-sail-park.htm

The blue cranes in the background are occasionally used to pick up decomissioned submarine reactors from barges on the Columbia River.

> Nothing should be forced or suppressed, that is antithetical to wu wei or any idea of balance/equilibrium.

Your understanding of balance/equilibrium is not quite correct. There is a concept called "Egoless Action" in Hindu Philosophies. Every living being is always and continuously engaged in action, defined as state changes in Mental/Verbal/Physical (note all three) domains. Activity is synonymous with Life itself. But a wise-man/monk/yogi trains to do this "egolessly" i.e. without reference to gain/loss for his "personal self". Because all action impinges on the external environment there is always change i.e. things vary with some getting enhanced while others get suppressed. This then gets back to you as "Karma" (i.e. the fruits of the action which nobody can escape) since we and the external environment are two parts of the universal whole. This is why you are advised to focus on "Right Action" i.e. that which is in accordance with "Dharma". The vast majority of people are "normal" (i.e. selfish and egoistic) and therefore engage in all sorts of activities which result in both good and bad karma and thus suffer happiness or unhappiness accordingly. The monk/yogi understands the difference and acts egolessly to break out of the "cycle of samsara" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra) and thus achieves mental equanimity, freedom from extremes and is said to be in balance/equilibrium w.r.t. the world.

"Wu Wei" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_wei) explains the same idea in a different form.

> but the wisdom is severely lacking. If you dedicate your life energy to work on a nuclear submarine, which has as its purpose to launch retaliatory strikes in an all out nuclear conflict, what does that say about your wisdom? And wisdom is the main thing we should take away from all these teachings. The meditation, calmness, focus etc...those are all secondary products.

Your idea of "Wisdom" here is not quite right. Wisdom is the ability to make the "Right Decision" in any environment at all times and engage in "Right Action" appropriate to that environment and instant. It involves all Moral(personal)/Ethical(societal)/Practical issues and concerns. In the case of a nuclear sub, the practical reason is acting as a deterrent to support the ethical reason of protecting society which is acceptable to an individual moral sense. Hence my point about "righteous and just war".

> This is my understanding, and the gripe i have is with westerners using eastern philosophy to "improve their productivity" or "become better leaders", that is not the point and in my opinion close to blasphemy.

This is exactly the wrong way to think about Philosophy. Philosophy is the most practical of all disciplines since its goal is to help us live and flourish in this society and world. There are many ways of doing it depending on your chosen "worldview" but there are some absolutes which crosscut all of them. The main thing is not to get lost in "other-worldly" ideas (which is the main problem with most people) but apply it correctly to our everyday lives.

For example, there is no external heaven vs. hell but merely mental states where you experience/ruminate on good vs bad thoughts/feelings/emotions. Everything is only the "Mind" and its various manifestations. The techniques developed to control/manage/modify/transform the mind by the monks/yogis are very practical and should be used in your everyday life whatever your goals might be. The problem you are talking about is the charlatans/hucksters in the west who with zero/half-baked knowledge of the above are bent on exploiting the ignorant populace. The solution is to study/educate yourself and share it with others.

In your first paragraph you conflate hinduism, buddhism and taoism. I don't know enough about hinduism but I find the taosim/buddhism connection problematic. They are 2 different philosophies with different cosmologies and ethics, that did merge over the course of many centuries into chan and then zen buddhism, which has again another set of ethics (that may support your views on "righteous violence" slightly more). From my understanding Daoism is essentially amoral, it describes how to align yourself to nature, it doesn't prescribe moral duties. The Dao itself is not benevolent, it treats every thing and every being with the same indifference.

I think the main theme of the Dao De Jing is precisely Wu Wei, non action, spontaneity. The nature of the ruler could also include the use of violence "to maintain order" or the nature of the soldier to kill the enemy (although even in the Dao De Jing weapons are seen as ominous symbols and war as a last resort).

Buddhism, on the other hand, is much more aimed at teaching ethics. The first precept is to refrain from killing or harming any living being, which should be enough to end this discussion :)

You seem to conflate the "egolessness" of an attained monk to that of a dutiful sailor. If acting without ego were the main point of Buddhism then living such an egoless life where one can press a button to launch a trident missile could lead to nirvana. I find that unlikely. The main point (in Buddhism, not Daoism) is not to act egolessly, it is to act righteously. Buddhist ethical conduct is very clear on this: right action, right speech, and right livelihood. Working on a nuclear submarine, launching nuclear missiles, directly or indirectly, or for a perceived "good cause" is still wrong action and wrong livelihood.

> In the case of a nuclear sub, the practical reason is acting as a deterrent to support the ethical reason of protecting society which is acceptable to an individual moral sense.

The Buddha is very clear about the cycle of violence, and I am not sure what could describe it more poignantly than the absurdity of mutually assured destruction.

> you can take that same framework/discipline/practice and adapt it to your own chosen goal viz.

The fact that, for instance, zen buddhism was coopted by samurai does not mean that buddhism allows killing, it just means that a powerful ruling caste distorted spiritual teachings to maintain their power, this happened in every part of the world and at any time in history. And it's exactly what the Buddha warned against when teaching about right livelihood and right action.