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The Hitler Salute Was Never German
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Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#22Regardless of where it originated or what it may have meant in other contexts, it’s been used enough to represent and be associated with the Nazi party and its ideology that today it’s almost universally recognized as a symbol of that history. Regardless of intent, that association is what it communicates. Given the current rise of fascism around the world, this whole “well, actually, it’s really the Roman salute” di…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute Buddhists didnt erase swastikas from their culture - its odd that others have such mindless reflex to reappropriate symbols
scouts also used the salute. they likely adopted it from the bellamy salute:
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-glass-plate-photograph-o...
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/girls-scouts...
https://www.alamy.com/fine-70s-vintage-black-and-white-lifes...
this last article alleges that the bellamy salute itself was meant to spread national socialist ideology and the police state which is of course absurd, but it has some good historical photos that are worth looking at:
Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The very first sentence in your article is: "It began in ancient Rome." It's not there as a quote, it's not there as "it was claimed to begin in ancient Rome". It's just the simple assertion: "It began in ancient Rome." If you didn't really mean to assert that statement or suggest that it's true, then, frankly, you've written that pretty poorly.
Yes it did begin in ancient Rome. I beg to differ in the poorly written part. I think it's more a misunderstanding of what the argument is. Or better said, what "it" is. Because it did start in ancient Rome. The link started there. At no point does the article argue the Romans used this salute. It's also not the core argument the article makes, that's the link with Hitler
>It began in ancient Rome. Mussolini adopted it. Hitler copied it, and then lied about where it came from.
>The Nazi salute.
As an opening paragraph to a topic that you're about to educate/clarify your audience on, maybe using a generic word to describe what your article goes into depth is a poor way of going about.. it.
Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute Buddhists didnt erase swastikas from their culture - its odd that others have such mindless reflex to reappropriate symbols
scouts also used the salute. they likely adopted it from the bellamy salute: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-glass-plate-photograph-o... https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/girls-scouts... https://www.alamy.com/fine-70s-vintage-black-and-white-lifes... this last article alleges that the bellamy salute itself was meant to spread national socialist ideology and the police state which is of course absurd…
Interesting insight, thank you for sharing!
Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes it did begin in ancient Rome. I beg to differ in the poorly written part. I think it's more a misunderstanding of what the argument is. Or better said, what "it" is. Because it did start in ancient Rome. The link started there. At no point does the article argue the Romans used this salute. It's also not the core argument the article makes, that's the link with Hitler
>It began in ancient Rome. Mussolini adopted it. Hitler copied it, and then lied about where it came from. >The Nazi salute. As an opening paragraph to a topic that you're about to educate/clarify your audience on, maybe using a generic word to describe what your article goes into depth is a poor way of going about.. it.
Thanks you for reading it! And yes, my audience gets what 'it' means!
Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#26Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I apologize and I won't do it again!
I thought this article was a good fit for critical thinking.
Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The very first sentence in your article is: "It began in ancient Rome." It's not there as a quote, it's not there as "it was claimed to begin in ancient Rome". It's just the simple assertion: "It began in ancient Rome." If you didn't really mean to assert that statement or suggest that it's true, then, frankly, you've written that pretty poorly.
Yes it did begin in ancient Rome. I beg to differ in the poorly written part. I think it's more a misunderstanding of what the argument is. Or better said, what "it" is. Because it did start in ancient Rome. The link started there. At no point does the article argue the Romans used this salute. It's also not the core argument the article makes, that's the link with Hitler
You don't have to argue. You are saying it.
It's not a misunderstanding from readers part. If you write "is started in ancient Rome" and think it does not imply that Romans used it, you have problems in writing.
Re: The Hitler Salute Was Never German
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes it did begin in ancient Rome. I beg to differ in the poorly written part. I think it's more a misunderstanding of what the argument is. Or better said, what "it" is. Because it did start in ancient Rome. The link started there. At no point does the article argue the Romans used this salute. It's also not the core argument the article makes, that's the link with Hitler
You don't have to argue. You are saying it. It's not a misunderstanding from readers part. If you write "is started in ancient Rome" and think it does not imply that Romans used it, you have problems in writing.
"It" does not imply that the Romans used it, in the context of the article and analysis that is about WWII (and not ancient Rome). Reading and writing an article doesn't stop at the first sentence you encounter.