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Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by PaulRobinson »

Spare_account wrote: post #20
PaulRobinson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logically, no, as they all neighbour non-pub locations. There's a coffee shop or restaurant within a minute or two of each of the top 5, from memory. There used to be some UK celebs (David Baddiel, Clive Anderson, others...), who used to regularly eat in a restaurant near the Crown & Anchor after their weekly 5-a-side football games, which is why it stands out in my mind.

>Logically, no, as they all neighbour non-pub locations. I don't understand this response, so I am wondering if I phrased my question badly. The linked article established that there is no pub in London that can be reached within 60 minutes travel time by anyone starting from any home in any London borough. I was wondering if there is any other location, be it a coffee shop, a park or even just a point in the middle…

OK, short version: no.

And logically this makes sense, because you can see the pub problem as a subset of locations within all locations, and all of these pubs are clustered around an equidistant point at ~72 minutes from everywhere in London. If such a location existed, it would have to be within that cluster, but somehow an average of > 12 minutes travel to all those pubs in that grouping. An eye ball test on a map tells you that isn't possible.

You might be asking "is there another location without pubs that is more equidistant", and mathematically that could yield a coffee shop, except in London it won't because the equidistant point for all of London and the equidistant pub basically are at the same point to within hundreds of yards, because of how public transport and public houses are distributed across all boroughs.

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by PaulRobinson »

specproc wrote: post #17
PaulRobinson wrote: post #6

The problem - and I can't understate this enough - is that these are all relatively close to each other (naturally), in one of the most miserable parts of London you could spend time in. More than 4 hours in that part of town and I start to feel more noticeably depressed. I get why equidistant is attractive, but you'll have a much nicer time if somebody is going to have a longer journey. So do yourself a favour: go o…

My favourite pub in this area, The Bree Louise, is sadly no more.

The only thing that annoyed me about HS2 more than "Oh, and it'll stop at Oak Common, and won't go to Manchester", was by that point they'd already flattened the Bree Louise.

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by IshKebab »

lambfruit wrote: post #2

I built this. I expected to find the pub everyone in London could reach within an hour. There isn't one. Nothing clears 65 minutes either. The first pubs all 33 boroughs can reach turn up at 70 minutes, and there are exactly two of them, less than a hundred metres apart by Great Portland Street. The maths has no opinion on beer. The winner is a Greene King, number four is a Wetherspoon above Baker Street station, and…

> I built this.

Oh hi Claude, how are you doing?

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by leoedin »

ben_w wrote: post #15
Spare_account wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any (non-pub) location in London that could satisfy the 60 minute requirement?

Conveniently, I've put together an isochrone map generator: https://benwheatley.github.io/Isochrone/web/?region=london&c... The origin point selected here is roughly Mermaid House, on the north side between the Millennium Bridge and Blackfriars station. My route-finding here is more than a little naïve, instant acceleration to each road's speed limit, full-speed turns, no traffic, lights always with you, etc. but the…

> My route-finding here is more than a little naïve, instant acceleration to each road's speed limit, full-speed turns, no traffic, lights always with you, etc. but there is a place within 60 minutes of all locations, pre-selected in that URL.

It's an interesting project, but that makes it completely worthless.

Nobody's driving to central London anyway - journey times are measured by public transport. And even if they were driving, the journey times by car are completely dictated by traffic. The average weekday speed in central London is 7.1 mph.

What question does this answer? Where can me and all my friends meet in our cars at 2am?

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by henryaj »

specproc wrote: post #17
PaulRobinson wrote: post #6

The problem - and I can't understate this enough - is that these are all relatively close to each other (naturally), in one of the most miserable parts of London you could spend time in. More than 4 hours in that part of town and I start to feel more noticeably depressed. I get why equidistant is attractive, but you'll have a much nicer time if somebody is going to have a longer journey. So do yourself a favour: go o…

My favourite pub in this area, The Bree Louise, is sadly no more.

I enjoyed many a pint in that pub during my student days at UCL!

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by CamouflagedKiwi »

Spare_account wrote: post #20
PaulRobinson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Logically, no, as they all neighbour non-pub locations. There's a coffee shop or restaurant within a minute or two of each of the top 5, from memory. There used to be some UK celebs (David Baddiel, Clive Anderson, others...), who used to regularly eat in a restaurant near the Crown & Anchor after their weekly 5-a-side football games, which is why it stands out in my mind.

>Logically, no, as they all neighbour non-pub locations. I don't understand this response, so I am wondering if I phrased my question badly. The linked article established that there is no pub in London that can be reached within 60 minutes travel time by anyone starting from any home in any London borough. I was wondering if there is any other location, be it a coffee shop, a park or even just a point in the middle…

I think pretty unlikely: there is enough pub density that it's unlikely that removing that requirement nets 10 minutes of saved journey time from all the furthest destinations.

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by dbetteridge »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #3

There appears to be no search; doing a “CMD + f” and searching for “The Faltering Fullback” got no results. Why do I remember “The Faltering Fullback?” One has to be introduced by a local, or by someone who loves Irish Pub. A friend took me to The Faltering Fullback; it is an Irish pub with a Thai delivery restaurant license operating inside it. https://maps.app.goo.gl/u3s3LzeeQrRGDQCS7

Yesss, the multiple levels and the overhanging gardens.

Perfect on a hot day for a cold one.

Re: London’s most equidistant pub

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Post by traceroute66 »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #6

The problem - and I can't understate this enough - is that these are all relatively close to each other (naturally), in one of the most miserable parts of London you could spend time in. More than 4 hours in that part of town and I start to feel more noticeably depressed. I get why equidistant is attractive, but you'll have a much nicer time if somebody is going to have a longer journey. So do yourself a favour: go o…

THIS THIS THIS !!

If I am going to subject myself to the horrors of London's over-crowded, over-priced, delay-ridden, filthy public transport then I sure as hell am not going to be doing that just to end up in the filthy confines of Euston Road.

Seriously.

Cool, fun blog post I will give that bit credit.

But the conclusion, "go to a pub on Euston Road" ? No. No. No. and NO !

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