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What if the RAM/GPU shortage is deliberate?

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Re: What if the RAM/GPU shortage is deliberate?

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From the opposite angle, there's apparently evidence that the RAM companies themselves are price fixing: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/samsung-sk-hynix-...

The existence of a lawsuit is not evidence.

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Re: What if the RAM/GPU shortage is deliberate?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The existence of a lawsuit is not evidence.

That's false. It's evidence, but it isn't conclusive. Someone thought that the law suit was worth filing, and that could be because the law suit has a chance of succeeding. It could also be some other reason, and it could also fail even if completely good faith -- this is why the evidence is non-conclusive.

By your logic, counter-lawsuits and especially the SLAPP suits are also evidence.

Re: What if the RAM/GPU shortage is deliberate?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's false. It's evidence, but it isn't conclusive. Someone thought that the law suit was worth filing, and that could be because the law suit has a chance of succeeding. It could also be some other reason, and it could also fail even if completely good faith -- this is why the evidence is non-conclusive.

By your logic, counter-lawsuits and especially the SLAPP suits are also evidence.

Still, RAM manufacturers have a long history of price fixing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_industry_price_fixing

Re: What if the RAM/GPU shortage is deliberate?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The existence of a lawsuit is not evidence.

That's false. It's evidence, but it isn't conclusive. Someone thought that the law suit was worth filing, and that could be because the law suit has a chance of succeeding. It could also be some other reason, and it could also fail even if completely good faith -- this is why the evidence is non-conclusive.

> Someone thought that the law suit was worth filing

No, someone thought that they could win a lawsuit.

We live in a highly litigious society. This happens all the time.

It's not _evidence_, it's _suspicion_, and it's asking it to be reviewed in a court of law.

Re: What if the RAM/GPU shortage is deliberate?

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You are aware that a 1 trillion parameter model won’t run on any quantity of consumer hardware, even heavily quantized… you need a data center for that. And that is not even to talk of the Kimi K3 model which is in the ballpark of 3 trillion

You don’t need a datacenter. 1T model requires 1T of RAM. Not easy to come by today in a compact factor but nowhere near the datacenter.

> 1T model requires 1T of RAM

assuming 8 bits per weight, but 4bits is commonly used once you get to that scale.

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