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Re: How to survive boiling water

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People interested in this: if you are ever in Amsterdam, I recommend to visit the Micropia museum: https://www.artis.nl/en/artis-micropia

Among many stunning things, they have a shelf full of foods and drinks (behind glasses) with age labels, ranging from days to years. It is fascinating to see how they evolve over time.

Re: How to survive boiling water

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In case anyone else is curious about the current status:

> The Milk was declared missing on August 20th, 2022.

> The dorm’s extended mailing list of over 300 current students, alumni, and other assorted Random-adjacent humans was contacted, twice.

> In the end, no Milk.

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/guest-post-the-random-...

Re: How to survive boiling water

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Cool story with an interesting ending (to me at least). Just a tiny nit... Should "Brewed as directed for 4 minutes in boiling water." be "Brewed as directed for 4 minutes in boiled water." Was the tea sitting in water that was boiling or placed in water that just boiled? The later is how I brew my teas.

Left in previously boiled water for 4 min. We can deduce this from the second sample, which simulates forgetting your tea bag in the mug for 15 min.

I think GP meant in the tea instructions

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post #9

Another organism that survives pasteurization is paratuberculosis, in milk. It is commonly found in commercial dairy herds. In my opinion, this is alarming. Many consider it to be a candidate for the cause of Crohn’s disease. Johne’s disease, which occurs in a subset of cattle infected by paratuberculosis, bears many similarities to Crohn’s disease. When Crohn’s disease was first described, it was believed to be an i…

More good reasons to avoid the expensive poison water called milk

As if millions of mammals suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.

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Fascinating post. Why did the author steep the tea at home?

"It was at this point I realized I needed a sterile-ish way to transport the steeped tea and tea bags from my house to the lab."

Was steeping the tea at home somehow relevant to the experiment?

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post #25

Spore forming bacterium are notoriously resistant to most ways of killing them. There's even a species that can resist radiation amounts that are 1000x the dose needed to kill a human. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinococcus_radiodurans

> Clues for future search of extremophile microbial life on Mars

That paragraph is pretty extraordinary with what is being claimed.

Crazy to think that anything could survive 25 kGy.

Re: How to survive boiling water

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post #9

Another organism that survives pasteurization is paratuberculosis, in milk. It is commonly found in commercial dairy herds. In my opinion, this is alarming. Many consider it to be a candidate for the cause of Crohn’s disease. Johne’s disease, which occurs in a subset of cattle infected by paratuberculosis, bears many similarities to Crohn’s disease. When Crohn’s disease was first described, it was believed to be an i…

More good reasons to avoid the expensive poison water called milk

can you explain why you feel this way, instead of making radical claims without saying why?
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