Hmmm, a company that hosts open models is telling us how good open models are...
Anybody who's tried it knows that what they're saying is true though.
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#22Why SoTA (uppercase “T”) instead of SotA (lowercase “T”) ? “State of [T]he Art” versus “State of [t]he Art”. If not SotA then at least SOTA, which is more accurate.
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#23Mythos/Fable was the state of the art back in March, if not earlier.
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#24Hmmm, a company that hosts open models is telling us how good open models are...
The don't only host open weight models. Also, why not promote this. If Fireworks thinks this big news might convert some new business doesn't make it not true.
and in fact, it would be detrimental to business, if they wrongly promote Kimi, as they would pretty soon lose trust with their users
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#25A third the cost, open source, and won't refuse every other request because of some vague possible connection to cybersecurity concerns.
For regular chat users it's $19 while Claude is $20...
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#28Is there something specifically with Kimi that's better here? As far as I know Kimi pricing is about the same as Sonnet 5 -- what happens if you use that model and Fable instead? Or Grok 4.5 which is even cheaper?
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
hmm almost like the exact race-to-the-bottom + arms-race dynamic all the doomers have been warning about
One man's offensive penetration tool is another mans defensive tool. In the recent HuggingFace/OpenAI incident the safety controls stood in the way of the defenders, not the attackers: https://www.thestack.technology/hugging-face-hacked-turned-t...
You're presenting further evidence of lack of effective control over these systems as... a mitigating factor...?
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#30what are my options if i want to use a router like this ? who provides one ?
Two that I use are:
* Openrouter.ai for a hosted router
* https://github.com/diegosouzapw/OmniRoute for a local router