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Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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I don't get it. I'm in the rural south and male nurses are common (although it is facility by facility I imagine). Not as many as women, but still, it isn't something I notice anymore.

It feels the same here - I've visited hospitals (as a guest, not a patient) quite a bit over the past year+, and I've noticed quite a few. I think women still outnumber men by at least 2:1, but it's not uncommon.

I'm guessing the goal is to get that parity up to 1:1, or something close.

Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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I think we should create a masculine-sounding word for "nurse", like "(patient/care) (guardian/maintainer/technician)". Nursing still sounds like breastfeeding (check the etymology!), which I'd reckon sounds offputting to most men. Neologisms are cringe, but demeaning men is as well.

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Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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I wonder how many comments will complain about DEI for men.

It's not DEI. When you're short on nurses, trying to invite men isn't DEI. If we had plenty of qualified nurses, but hospitals made quotas saying that 20% of nurses must be men, that would be DEI. It's replacing merit (let me sort for "best available nurse" and hire that person) with another attribute (let me sort for "male nurse," then sort for "best available nurse in the male group", and hire that person). If you…

What does the ‘I’ stand for in DEI?

Say a man thinks nursing is for women and not for men. Say an employer wants more nurses irrespective of sex. Is that employer engaging in DEI if they spend more money on male re-education than on recruiting women?

Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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I think we should create a masculine-sounding word for "nurse", like "(patient/care) (guardian/maintainer/technician)". Nursing still sounds like breastfeeding (check the etymology!), which I'd reckon sounds offputting to most men. Neologisms are cringe, but demeaning men is as well.

That's likely what people will still call them, regardless of the neologism. I am not opposed to the neologism, but like most, it will be really hard to agree on a single one so we should continue to use "nurse" and ignore its etymology meanwhile.

Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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I don't get it. I'm in the rural south and male nurses are common (although it is facility by facility I imagine). Not as many as women, but still, it isn't something I notice anymore.

I see quite a few male nurses too, except for in the birthing and family care suites when my wife gave birth. All women across the several days we were in hospital, with the exception of a few male OBs and lab techs.

Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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I don't get it. I'm in the rural south and male nurses are common (although it is facility by facility I imagine). Not as many as women, but still, it isn't something I notice anymore.

> From 2022 to 2024, the percentage of men in nursing decreased from 11.2% to 10.4%.2

https://www.aacnnursing.org/news-data/fact-sheets/nursing-wo...

Re: Amid nurse shortage, a university rolls out the welcome mat for men

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Why can’t we have more doctors?

The number of Medicare funded residency slots are limited by law. Medical schools won't graduate more doctors because residency can't be guaranteed. Who wants to be the med school who graduates doctors with >$100K debt and no path to licensure?

In the 1990s the AMA lobbied congress to get the number of Medicare-funded slots limited. This was done in response to a projected "oversupply" of doctors (preventing a deflationary effect on doctors' compensation). That limit has stuck and now, even though the AMA is lobbying for the removal of the limit, the damage to the supply of doctors has been done and it's a process with a long pipeline.

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