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HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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Frustratingly I couldn’t find a Mikrotik that would offer me a few SFPs, and a 2.5 or two. I wanted ideally just 3 SFPs - two WAN for LB / Failover and one up to switch. 2.5g WAN would do but would rather SFP for future use. UDM-SE it is for now.

What exactly did you need and how did https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in not do it? It says switch but it runs routerOS and can route at some speed - not 10G tho.

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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post #17

About 2 years ago I tried to use Mikrotik, as the router for my ATT Fiber. It's royal pain. Basic router setup is not hard. Port forward to expose web server? Can be done after heavy docs&forum reading, but hair pinning never worked for me. I checked their WiFi AP. It's UI is hard even for senior software engineer. In the end I got opnSense installed in VM on Proxmox and it's my router for last 2 years. I'm using 2 M…

It wasn’t terribly complicated for me but I seem to be built for the old Cisco style iOS. But with an LLM it’s easier than falling off a log and the command line means it can do everything easily.

The router probably should work without relying on LLM:

I remember I misconfigured it, and can't really Google around or ask LLM to fix it, because my Internet is down now.

Of course I can use Internet on my phone, but it's not really convenient setup to ask LLM to troubleshoot the router.

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

#24

About 2 years ago I tried to use Mikrotik, as the router for my ATT Fiber. It's royal pain. Basic router setup is not hard. Port forward to expose web server? Can be done after heavy docs&forum reading, but hair pinning never worked for me. I checked their WiFi AP. It's UI is hard even for senior software engineer. In the end I got opnSense installed in VM on Proxmox and it's my router for last 2 years. I'm using 2 M…

It should be doable by most software engineers. They did teach some basic CCNA course in the university as part of computer science studies and the concepts taught there should help a lot with configuring any router, including RouterOS. It could also be helpful to watch some guides on routing and firewall on Linux, since RouterOS is just Linux with a very specific UI on top.

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn’t terribly complicated for me but I seem to be built for the old Cisco style iOS. But with an LLM it’s easier than falling off a log and the command line means it can do everything easily.

The router probably should work without relying on LLM: I remember I misconfigured it, and can't really Google around or ask LLM to fix it, because my Internet is down now. Of course I can use Internet on my phone, but it's not really convenient setup to ask LLM to troubleshoot the router.

There is a safe mode built in. If you enable it and you loose connection to the router due to some misconfiguration, it will reset within 15 minutes to the point of where you started the safe mode session. Also if you mess up the IP layer, there is a chance that you can still connect and configure RouterOS through their WinBox program using the mac address.

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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post #3

For me, the era of MikroTik is sort of... now. Don't get me wrong, they make powerful and feature-complete stuff, but their UI sort of assumes you really know what you're doing. I don't know what I'm doing. But my LLM does. I've been able to set up site-to-site VPNs with Mikrotik in fifteen minutes now, rather than the day-long exercise of googling and praying.

Mikrotik makes great hardware that shines under Openvrt )

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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I've been a MikroTik fan since the beginning of my career some 15 years ago now. I have used the MikroTik router and Ubiquiti AP combination ever since. With that said, I can absolutely agree that their UX is terrible for anyone who doesn't specifically know how to configure a MikroTik router. The fact that you have to configure FQ-CoDel yourself and some bufferbloat protection isn't just a built-in option is absurd for anyone using it as a home router.

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

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post #3

For me, the era of MikroTik is sort of... now. Don't get me wrong, they make powerful and feature-complete stuff, but their UI sort of assumes you really know what you're doing. I don't know what I'm doing. But my LLM does. I've been able to set up site-to-site VPNs with Mikrotik in fifteen minutes now, rather than the day-long exercise of googling and praying.

It’s been great for llm + cli usage on mikrotik

Re: HomeLab #1: MikroTik as a Home Router

#30
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs certainly help out - in my case, agent helped with searching through various web forums about how my ISP authenticates and sets up Internet connection. Nevertheless let's give MikroTik, where it's due: * new documentation page is much cleaner to browse * tutorials on their YouTube channel are quite informative * WinBox v4 has in my opinion much more pleasent UX/UI than v3

I’m going to admit it took me too many years to realize there is a Mac Winbox client - I assumed it was a windows only thing.

It was, until they came up with v4 around a year ago or so.

It's possible to run v3 under Wine on a Mac but it was kind of clunky. V4 is much nicer (also runs on Linux too).

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