Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November • Hacker News Board

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by untog » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:25 PM UTC

Irregardless wrote: post #20

harigov wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gimmicks are you talking about? They offered a deal on xbox 360 and people found it good enough to buy.

I'm referring to the Wii motion control and the Wii U GamePad. Traditional gamers don't find those appealing, yet it seems to be where Nintendo has focused a significant portion of their development and marketing attention.

"Traditional gamers" are an increasingly small market when compared to "casual gamers", though.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by weego » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:29 PM UTC

nhangen wrote: post #5

I'm not surprised. Still don't understand the value proposition of the Wii U, despite the heavy PR and marketing currently in effect. Why buy a Wii U when you can play your iPhone/iPod/Android and probably have an XBOX/PS3 already?

Because first party Nintendo games still have some love and heart put into them, in stark contrast to a lot of the "AAA" titles on their biennial churn (Level 5 are one of the few others who keep franchises going yet manage to keep the quality up).

Granted there is a lot of good indie work on mobile but it's not a like for like, we aren't discussing the DS here.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by fitzpasd » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:32 PM UTC

Linkbait title since the Wii U wasn't on sale for the full month and stock levels were low. I can't foresee a similar article after December.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by nicholassmith » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:35 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #21

Irregardless wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm referring to the Wii motion control and the Wii U GamePad. Traditional gamers don't find those appealing, yet it seems to be where Nintendo has focused a significant portion of their development and marketing attention.

"Traditional gamers" are an increasingly small market when compared to "casual gamers", though.

But traditional gamers often spend more money than casual gamers over a longer period of time. Casual gamers are more inclined towards single experiences (Wii Fit) whereas traditional gamers often prefer to try many, many games, often at launch price.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by cllns » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:39 PM UTC

fname wrote: post #19

bmohlenhoff wrote: post #14

Yes, but how many of those 360 sales were actually repeat sales because the owner's previous 360 decided to red-ring? answer: At least one.

Not sure how that makes much of a difference, other than the fact that they still chose to purchase a 360 over the PS3 or Wii U after such a hardware failure.

It does make a difference, since the person is already locked-in by owning games for the 360.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by Irregardless » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:40 PM UTC

jasonquinn wrote: post #17

Irregardless wrote: post #2

Please, please let this be a lesson to Microsoft that gamers aren't interested in gimmicks, and that the casuals who do want gimmicks are far more fickle.

The did all right with there casual gimmick - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12697975

I think that remains to be seen. It sold extremely well, but it was also the only console hardware released in several years and came in several bundles. Not to mention the hacking/non-gaming uses many people bought it for.

Besides, how many Kinect games are in the top 50 for Xbox 360? Zero. And how many of your gamer friends play Kinect games? I'm betting it's close to zero.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by jcurbo » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:40 PM UTC

Irregardless wrote: post #16

brianbreslin wrote: post #11

Anyone know the accurate count of total units shipped for the 360? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_fi... shows PS3 outselling by a hair xbox, but i've seen far more people w/x360 than ps3.

> but i've seen far more people w/x360 than ps3. That would make sense if you live in the U.S. The PS3 is ahead worldwide, but the 360 is winning by a landslide in the U.S.

Indeed, in my completely anecdotal experience, the Sony products (PS3, PSP, Vita) seem far more popular overseas (especially in Japan) than the 360. Microsoft has had a hard time getting the 360 going in Japan.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by Irregardless » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:45 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #21

Irregardless wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm referring to the Wii motion control and the Wii U GamePad. Traditional gamers don't find those appealing, yet it seems to be where Nintendo has focused a significant portion of their development and marketing attention.

"Traditional gamers" are an increasingly small market when compared to "casual gamers", though.

Zynga begs to differ. "Traditional gamers" are here to stay. The same can't be said for casual gamers.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by purplelobster » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:54 PM UTC

Irregardless wrote: post #20

harigov wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gimmicks are you talking about? They offered a deal on xbox 360 and people found it good enough to buy.

I'm referring to the Wii motion control and the Wii U GamePad. Traditional gamers don't find those appealing, yet it seems to be where Nintendo has focused a significant portion of their development and marketing attention.

Just curious, why wouldn't traditional gamers like the game pad? I can understand the disdain for motion controls, but personally I quite like the idea of the game pad.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Post by OmarIsmail » Fri, Dec 07, 2012, 4:55 PM UTC

cllns wrote: post #25

fname wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how that makes much of a difference, other than the fact that they still chose to purchase a 360 over the PS3 or Wii U after such a hardware failure.

It does make a difference, since the person is already locked-in by owning games for the 360.

The 360 has the highest games-to-console attach rate of any system ever. If repeat buyers are a significant portion of 360 sales then the 360's attach rate would be absolutely insane. Therefore it's easy to reason that broken consoles make up a very small percentage of total units sold.