Vapor compression refrigeration has been mass produced for a century. Add a reversing valve and you have a heat pump. Europe better get started on installs, it’s not going to cool down.
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Europe's Largest Unions Demand Right to Cancel Work on Days Above 30C
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#22That's not going to work in the South. Demand adapted buildings, housing, and AC where applicable.
Most places in the south already have AC
And the ones that don't have it, oh well, too bad :)
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#2330C isn't that bad if the humidity is low and you are in shade.
Except for a large part of Europe, the relative humidity is quite high. So, they're suffering more than most. I say this as someone who once lived in a desert and is well accustomed to 40-50 C summers.
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#24That's not going to work in the South. Demand adapted buildings, housing, and AC where applicable.
It's specifically for "jobs in sectors like agriculture and construction", not sure better buildings will help the workers out on fields and construction sites much.
Although one temperature threshold probably don't make much sense, a strict 30C across the entire continent would mean massively different things in different countries, in many countries that mean basically the entire summer off, every year.
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#25>The union said employers should take steps to cool down workplaces once temperatures exceed 24C, with workers able to stop working if temperatures reach 30C, or 27C for those doing manual labour or working outdoors.
Geneva already has a version of this. You have to stop outside work at 13h00 unless it's necessary, in which case you have to take 45min breaks for every 15 minutes of work. However the threshold isn't 27C but rather like 32C (from what I understand)
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#2630C isn't that bad if the humidity is low and you are in shade.
Heatwave from a few weeks ago had 70% humidity where I live. It's brutal with no AC to dehumidify.
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#27We should implement this in Florida. I wouldn't mind a five month vacation.
From the article, it's for "jobs in sectors like agriculture and construction". Would be interesting to learn about how this kind of work is managed in hotter climates. For office work, a lot of European countries (especially the UK) haven't invested in AC as much as the rest of the world because they haven't needed to. This is especially apparent in housing, where working from home is becoming difficult in these hig…
I play games with a guy who does concrete work in Arizona, he mostly works at night.
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#28Anything above 86 F? That's the whole summer. I see this as a negotiating position. They'll probably agree on something closer to 33 C (~90F). They have to. If they do nothing people will literally die. Climate change has consequences.
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#29That's not going to work in the South. Demand adapted buildings, housing, and AC where applicable.
It's not clear from the article, but I think it's obvious they are referring to jobs that require being outdoors
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#30Vapor compression refrigeration has been mass produced for a century. Add a reversing valve and you have a heat pump. Europe better get started on installs, it’s not going to cool down.
I have a warmtepomp -- it's great, but it is cooling the house, not the air a only gets it to 5 day degrees down. It's mandatory for new houses in Amsterdam I think and there seem to plans to retrofit old buildings. It helps that we also produce it, but the usual types tried to sabotage that too last time.