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I don’t know why you’re phrasing it like it’s not a big deal that these juggernauts are attempting to make themselves indispensable.
Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
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Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How do I, as an ordinary person, benefit from Meta's data centers? From the taxes they provide
I've never seen a cent go to any service in my local municipality from Meta's taxes & whatever does end up in the city coffers is not big enough to have any real effect b/c those services could just as easily be financed by direct payments instead of some circuitous route of federal, state, & sales taxes from transactions enabled by corporations like Meta. If I was in SF & working for Google or Meta then maybe you mi…
Brief google search shows that most Meta DC's give around ~15M per year taxes on average per year. I'm not sure what circuitous route you are speaking about.
https://www.northernpublicradio.org/wnij-news/2024-12-02/dek...
https://ipmnewsroom.org/how-do-data-centers-benefit-the-plac...
Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Discharge, is part of "water usage". Arguing otherwise is embarrassing.
According to the article this is a closed loop cooling system, once it’s up and running it doesn’t use any water. They run water through it during installation and that’s the discharge that they found bacteria in.
You can have a “closed loop system” but you need to shed heat somewhere and that is either by air cooling drawing tons of electricity, or evaporation that draws tons of water.
Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never seen a cent go to any service in my local municipality from Meta's taxes & whatever does end up in the city coffers is not big enough to have any real effect b/c those services could just as easily be financed by direct payments instead of some circuitous route of federal, state, & sales taxes from transactions enabled by corporations like Meta. If I was in SF & working for Google or Meta then maybe you mi…
Brief google search shows that most Meta DC's give around ~15M per year taxes on average per year. I'm not sure what circuitous route you are speaking about. https://www.northernpublicradio.org/wnij-news/2024-12-02/dek... https://ipmnewsroom.org/how-do-data-centers-benefit-the-plac...
Meta is an unnecessary middleman, all those payments could be handled w/o them & their advertising network. Also, from your own link
> META received a 55 percent tax break as part of the Enterprise Zone Tax abatement program, which is a state initiative
Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#25A bit meta - the names in this article made me chuckle: Goat Systems, Cowboy State Daily, Cupriavidus gilardii, Frank Strong the Board's Manager and the Crow Creek and Dry Creek facilities. This is gold for a comedy sketch :)
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Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#26Is it really that expensive to not do stuff like this?
I guess 'turning the entirety of the American public against data centers' is not something they factor into the cost analysis.
Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Brief google search shows that most Meta DC's give around ~15M per year taxes on average per year. I'm not sure what circuitous route you are speaking about. https://www.northernpublicradio.org/wnij-news/2024-12-02/dek... https://ipmnewsroom.org/how-do-data-centers-benefit-the-plac...
Meta is an unnecessary middleman, all those payments could be handled w/o them & their advertising network. Also, from your own link > META received a 55 percent tax break as part of the Enterprise Zone Tax abatement program, which is a state initiative
This doesn't make any sense.
You asked this
> How do I, as an ordinary person, benefit from Meta's data centres?
And I gave the answer. How do you think you can eliminate the middleman?
> Enterprise Zone Tax abatement program
The amount I showed was after accounting for the Tax abatement program. And its almost as if there's a reason the state wants to have this program in the first place. Almost as if it helps broader society.
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Meta is an unnecessary middleman, all those payments could be handled w/o them & their advertising network. Also, from your own link > META received a 55 percent tax break as part of the Enterprise Zone Tax abatement program, which is a state initiative
This doesn't make any sense. You asked this > How do I, as an ordinary person, benefit from Meta's data centres? And I gave the answer. How do you think you can eliminate the middleman? > Enterprise Zone Tax abatement program The amount I showed was after accounting for the Tax abatement program. And its almost as if there's a reason the state wants to have this program in the first place. Almost as if it helps broad…
My city has bonds for all sorts of projects & it is financed by the people & federal grants. No corporations are involved in the process. It's not complicated: https://www.epa.gov/waterfinancecenter/effective-funding-fra...
Re: Meta data center water discharges suspended for contaminating water supply
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never seen a cent go to any service in my local municipality from Meta's taxes & whatever does end up in the city coffers is not big enough to have any real effect b/c those services could just as easily be financed by direct payments instead of some circuitous route of federal, state, & sales taxes from transactions enabled by corporations like Meta. If I was in SF & working for Google or Meta then maybe you mi…
Brief google search shows that most Meta DC's give around ~15M per year taxes on average per year. I'm not sure what circuitous route you are speaking about. https://www.northernpublicradio.org/wnij-news/2024-12-02/dek... https://ipmnewsroom.org/how-do-data-centers-benefit-the-plac...
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How do I, as an ordinary person, benefit from Meta's data centers? From the taxes they provide
I've never seen a cent go to any service in my local municipality from Meta's taxes & whatever does end up in the city coffers is not big enough to have any real effect b/c those services could just as easily be financed by direct payments instead of some circuitous route of federal, state, & sales taxes from transactions enabled by corporations like Meta. If I was in SF & working for Google or Meta then maybe you mi…
Those workers pay quite a lot of federal taxes