I added lemmy.world to my news cycle a few years ago just in case. It's growing fast now it seems, as others make the same decision.
Reddit will require you to log in to use old.reddit.com
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#22If they wanted to actually prevent abusive users they would make the API more affordable. Its just sites like reddit, twitter/x, etc. storing valuable social data that can't be found elsewhere. It's the exclusivity and the difficulty to obtain the data that is being protected.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Rather than using rate limiting or access control over a singular user Rate limiting by user is much easier said than done for anonymous (not logged in) users. How do you define a user? The same person (or bot) can hop from IP to IP using a number of methodologies on a scale of sohpistication. They can take or leave any cookie you send their way. They can avoid browser fingerprinting and spoof their user agent. And…
Reddit IMHO, is well known for how crafty they are for ensuring once someone is banned, it's quite difficult to get around it. Thus I'm fairly confident they can pick the difference between requests from one IP landing on a particular thread by way of search engine or some other area and going on to explore comments from a couple of the users and other subsequent threads over a few minutes ... to that of a process to…
This has the same vibe as "if netflix cracks down on password sharing they'll lose revenue!" Which, obviously, didn't happen. Cutting out abuse at the expense of harming low-value users is always a good bet.
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#24"Hey chat, pull reddit content and make me a dup"
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#25I ~~can't~~ won't use the new ( decade+ old? )reddit. From the Reddit Post announcing this, : "In case you are wondering . . . Q: Is Reddit shutting down Old Reddit? A: Not right now! We can’t promise it will be around forever, but u/spez himself has said we’ll keep supporting it while folks are still using it. That said, it doesn’t have the same modern security tech stack reddit.com has so we need to tighten securit…
> it doesn’t have the same modern security tech stack reddit.com has so we need to tighten security on old reddit to keep it viable.
This is how you justify it to anyone who doesn’t know web dev.
For those who do, it’s an idiotic statement. The only difference between new Reddit and old Reddit is the visual styling and how content is presented. Both have all the same security.
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#26if you don't give every iota of your physical makeup to our benevolent leaders, this is labelled as abusive behaviour. for example, talking over communication channels that aren't completely monitorable is clearly terrorist activity. using your brain is directly harmful to corporations, therefore unauthorized intelligence is harmful . I'm starting to see a pattern here and it starts with reverse demonization, like a…
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#28I ~~can't~~ won't use the new ( decade+ old? )reddit. From the Reddit Post announcing this, : "In case you are wondering . . . Q: Is Reddit shutting down Old Reddit? A: Not right now! We can’t promise it will be around forever, but u/spez himself has said we’ll keep supporting it while folks are still using it. That said, it doesn’t have the same modern security tech stack reddit.com has so we need to tighten securit…
> it doesn’t have the same modern security tech stack reddit.com has so we need to tighten security on old reddit to keep it viable. This is how you justify it to anyone who doesn’t know web dev. For those who do, it’s an idiotic statement. The only difference between new Reddit and old Reddit is the visual styling and how content is presented. Both have all the same security.
They don’t mean websec, they mean textsec. The old site doesn’t have the level of text scraper defenses that the new site does, without which Reddit can’t monetize the written output of their userbase for AI training. Putting old behind a login wall solves that.
Having previously recommended on HN that blogs put up a simple basicauth that takes any password to stop AI theft dead in its tracks, I definitely agree with their reasoning; if nothing else, it’ll result in an honest accounting of users left using it.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reddit IMHO, is well known for how crafty they are for ensuring once someone is banned, it's quite difficult to get around it. Thus I'm fairly confident they can pick the difference between requests from one IP landing on a particular thread by way of search engine or some other area and going on to explore comments from a couple of the users and other subsequent threads over a few minutes ... to that of a process to…
This has the same vibe as "if netflix cracks down on password sharing they'll lose revenue!" Which, obviously, didn't happen. Cutting out abuse at the expense of harming low-value users is always a good bet.
Oh I think the powers that be at reddit have worked out even converting a small percentage of the lurkers into members will be quite beneficial. Once a member there's a higher likelihood the new member will engage and consume more - thus more ad revenue or eventually choose to move over to ad free subscription.
As for creating a wall though, reddit is very large and has a huge mass of users, but eventually some of the users will move to other areas more tolerant and less interested in capitalising their comments, users which are more interested in sharing their pearls of wisdom or hard gained knowledge with all of the web.
As to a similar situation to Netflix's actions - There's a difference though IMO between a limited amount of choices to consume new tv series and movies vs yet another forum like area ... If one wants to watch a new series or movie, one has to make a choice how that's done ... if an area on the web becomes less than desirable to visit that doesn't have anything unique, there's honestly no absolute need to include it and continue to consume elsewhere, like a tv series that's going down hill fast, for many there's a point they stop and watch something else. So there's no real choice apart from consequential things like evaluating how important a thread from such a place might be that turns up in a search engine if one is looking for answers or whether to engage where a thread from the walled area has been linked, with anything more than superficial banter in such threads outside of the walled site.
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#30People saying they'll never use Reddit again is just noise. I'm sure you've seen the "protests" and sub closures because of {$change}. Two weeks later the same mods and users realise they can't get their power trip or dopamine hit from anything else and are back on Reddit - with the mods proudly back working as unpaid janitors for a company with a billion dollars valuation.
Discussion for certain hobbies and interests, among those seriously interested in them, has long since moved to WhatsApp groups. Sure, WhatsApp is not a libre platform either and has its own dopamine-hit issues, but you’re underestimating how much Reddit has alienated its user base (namely that portion of it who care about close-knit community and skillsharing) since the 2018 redesign.