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Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

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Here’s a short list why remote work was attacked in a coordinated way:

- government: the government found that remote workers aren’t staying in expensive urban areas, it means less taxes through property taxes and other forms of taxes as well. It also means they have to build infrastructure in other areas than few hotspots in the country.

- banks: banks gave loans to landlords, primarily commercial and residential, landlords can’t pay it back because no one is renting the inflated prices of urban areas.

- landlords: obviously, their income is your hardwork for residential, or investors’ money/cut of your revenue for commercial. Also the government too, like how it’s in Canada, housing market is one of the categories that make the economy, you hit that, you hit the economy.

- managers/CEOs: as the article goes in details, it’s pure power dynamics, the lust to feel in charge can’t be satisfied remotely, and the ones who tried it either failed or looked like a total freaks (one manager I remember requested to have camera on while working from home), the manager needs to feel the status of walking around the horrible open office style and checking on this, criticizing that, all while other employees are hearing this big boss in the room!

Who was winning in remote work? The employees, their families, their kids, their wellbeing, their wallets, even cars went cheap because people don’t need to commute 2hrs everyday. Sure, remote work isn’t for everyone, but it should be always available as an option for who can.

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

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post #11

Even if one were to grant the conclusion — leaders resist remote work to preserve their "power and status" — to what extent is the magnitude and success of a company (or for that matter, any serious enterprise) a direct function of its leader's ability to: - Exercise authority / power - Maintain status within the hierarchy As in - who wants to work for a leader who is neither powerful nor high-status within their own…

There are other reasons that an employee may comply with a leader's instructions than some highly subjective and deeply irrational notion of social status. For example, they might comply because they're paid to, or because they want company to succeed (for stocks, or for other reasons). Some performance of authority isn't a perquisite for humans choosing to organize.

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

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This study is extremely weak. The "unobtrusive measures" they use as proxies for narcissism are poorly correlated. It's also a bad sign they need to devote such substantial portions of the paper trying to defend Study 1's questionable proxy measures.

There are obvious confounding variable and alternate explanations for these factors starting with the fact relative compensation metrics vary by industry norms, sector dynamics, and company maturity. This feels like a paper where they went looking for a correlation they hoped to find and then did a lot of work to rationalize weak correlations and coax their preferred narrative past peer review.

While the conclusion is sure to find a sympathetic audience among employees psycho-analyzing the personality flaws of "the boss" around the water-cooler, the paper fails to adequately support its conclusions.

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

#25
post #11

Even if one were to grant the conclusion — leaders resist remote work to preserve their "power and status" — to what extent is the magnitude and success of a company (or for that matter, any serious enterprise) a direct function of its leader's ability to: - Exercise authority / power - Maintain status within the hierarchy As in - who wants to work for a leader who is neither powerful nor high-status within their own…

There are other reasons that an employee may comply with a leader's instructions than some highly subjective and deeply irrational notion of social status. For example, they might comply because they're paid to, or because they want company to succeed (for stocks, or for other reasons). Some performance of authority isn't a perquisite for humans choosing to organize.

Sure, but there are longer shots than others, where money alone won't make the difference and when conviction in mission is directly related to conviction in founders/leaders.

"subjective and deeply irrational" aren't the exception for how humans organize

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

#26

All of my jobs until the last one were in-person, in-office, and toward the end of my schooling, some college courses were 100% remote/online, so I've developed a lot of thoughts. At this point I would oppose remote jobs and opt for the in-person ones. Though my remote job was fantastic in terms of flexibility and the comfort of my own home, much was lacking. It is far, far easier to collaborate with humans and rally…

At this point its not even about practical and financial "disadvantages" for me but literal affordability. I'd gladly go to the office every day, if they weren't all hell bent on setting up downtown while having to live >1h15 out of town on a good day to be able to think about affording anything.

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

#27
post #11

Even if one were to grant the conclusion — leaders resist remote work to preserve their "power and status" — to what extent is the magnitude and success of a company (or for that matter, any serious enterprise) a direct function of its leader's ability to: - Exercise authority / power - Maintain status within the hierarchy As in - who wants to work for a leader who is neither powerful nor high-status within their own…

> who wants to work for a leader who is neither powerful nor high-status within their own company?

Me. In my limited experience, the more leaders are involved, the less likely the project is to be successful. The ideal situation is having leadership that is able to set a decent strategy, and then get out of the way of their subordinates and let them execute. Bad leadership micromanages and inserts themselves in the way of execution.

The status and “power” involved in setting strategy isn’t nearly as significant as the amount involved in micromanagement.

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

#28
post #17

It's evident that human tribes are organized to be led by narcissists. It's easy to organize a tribe around neurodivergence and personality disorders if we think about them as genetic roles. Typical people are highly social and efficient. They depend heavily on hierrarchy and social coherence to navigate the world and can take on any task as general workers. Narcissistic people are a subtype of typicals who are the l…

incredibly cliché and essentialist view of the world, reads like a bad pseudoscientific self help book from the 90's

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

#29
post #17

It's evident that human tribes are organized to be led by narcissists. It's easy to organize a tribe around neurodivergence and personality disorders if we think about them as genetic roles. Typical people are highly social and efficient. They depend heavily on hierrarchy and social coherence to navigate the world and can take on any task as general workers. Narcissistic people are a subtype of typicals who are the l…

incredibly cliché and essentialist view of the world, reads like a bad pseudoscientific self help book from the 90's

It's not trying to be scientific, it's merely a little play on imagining human diversity.

A fragment of imagination.

Re: Why narcissistic leaders resist remote work

#30

All of my jobs until the last one were in-person, in-office, and toward the end of my schooling, some college courses were 100% remote/online, so I've developed a lot of thoughts. At this point I would oppose remote jobs and opt for the in-person ones. Though my remote job was fantastic in terms of flexibility and the comfort of my own home, much was lacking. It is far, far easier to collaborate with humans and rally…

Financial wfh disadvantages?
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