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JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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Sounds like the 90’s early ISP experience scaled up. No firewalls, everything on public IPs, text files with global credentials in clear text…

I have been transported back to the days of `conf t`, `enable password hunter2`, `show run`, `copy run start`

And the days of hubs, not switches, telnet and rlogin, not SSH. A hacked host could potentially compromise your whole LAN.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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I've been in the industry for a long, long time, and I would say that use of bastion hosts ranks #2 on my list of things that tell me your environment is not secure (right behind "we use fail2ban to protect us" as the #1 clue). I've bought a bunch of companies and seriously evaluated hundreds of them, and the ones where people had a bastion host set up commonly seemed to act as if it protected them from everything, t…

Did most of the companies have external facing jump servers? I'd hope at least companies have internal-only and even then with strict internal network access policies (+VPN etc) and ldap authorization etc. Can't imagine that any competent orgs would have externally-facing ssh or windows bastion hosts.

I mean this earnestly: I greatly envy your ignorance.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did most of the companies have external facing jump servers? I'd hope at least companies have internal-only and even then with strict internal network access policies (+VPN etc) and ldap authorization etc. Can't imagine that any competent orgs would have externally-facing ssh or windows bastion hosts.

I mean this earnestly: I greatly envy your ignorance.

Ignorance? I did say "competent" didn't I?

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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I've been in the industry for a long, long time, and I would say that use of bastion hosts ranks #2 on my list of things that tell me your environment is not secure (right behind "we use fail2ban to protect us" as the #1 clue). I've bought a bunch of companies and seriously evaluated hundreds of them, and the ones where people had a bastion host set up commonly seemed to act as if it protected them from everything, t…

Seriously "let's just put every single person thru one server unencrypted" is IDEAL place to attack. At least in case of VPN you only tunnel then-encrypted (in most cases) traffic to servers - so at worst case you at least have protection of ssh/https

Every "jump host" I've seen in the past 25+ years has used SSH externally.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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At one of the top tier 1 ISPs in the world, there was a bastion host that allowed 2 teams of network engineers unfettered access to everything; once your permissions allowed you access to the bastion, you had everything. 50 some people with trivial credentialed access to network infrastructure that the world ran on; fatfinger a bgp config and you could take down countries. Swathes of cities were regular casualities o…

Sounds like the 90’s early ISP experience scaled up. No firewalls, everything on public IPs, text files with global credentials in clear text…

A lot of that is still there in various ways.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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At first glance, it looks like a parallel-universe Linux version of JumpCloud.

that association probably stings a bit https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/jumpcloud-bre... (side note: always say the attackers were from North Korea.)

Not really.

There is nothing immune to breaches and NK has some of the best and most persistent State-backed cybersecurity threats in the world.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

#27

Aside concerns that this is not mature and may possible be built using AI-driven development. Does this not just put every resource behind a single point of failure?

In an enterprise style deployment you (in theory) would be geographically clustering endpoints, where each entrypoint into the network has a cache of access permissions and resources.

I can't tell if this app supports that without digging through the docs (that don't seem to exist) or the code (that I don't care to browse), but that's how a typical zerotrust deployment works.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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post #11

This looks like a less trustworthy version of Apache Guacamole.

Not event remotely the same kind of product.

This is for creating extremely fined grained permissions, controls, and auditing between users, devices, applications, and infrastructure, bound with IAM.

Like you can give Sarah access with her Passkey to port 4345 on Sunday to 6 of the 47 network switches, but only if she logs in from the EU with her Pixel device using a particular app and hits the Swedish network entry point.

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

#29

I've been in the industry for a long, long time, and I would say that use of bastion hosts ranks #2 on my list of things that tell me your environment is not secure (right behind "we use fail2ban to protect us" as the #1 clue). I've bought a bunch of companies and seriously evaluated hundreds of them, and the ones where people had a bastion host set up commonly seemed to act as if it protected them from everything, t…

There's a somewhat related article from the UK NCSC here, for anyone interested: https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/paper/security-architecture-anti-pat...

Re: JumpServer: Open-Source Privileged Access Management

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post #9

What am I looking at? I'm not really sure, is it some sort of Citrix replacement? I tried to look at the documentation but was left with more questions, the "free" version mentions "Linux server" (not even the GNU utilities?) and is just available as a curl | bash (but the apparently targets RHEL, Suse, Debian/Ubuntu and Alpine) and I started to glance through the git "mysqldump -uroot -h127.0.0.1 -p jumpserver -P330…

More like a replacement for something like CyberArk than for Citrix. It's not so much about the remote access as it is about control and auditing. i.e. ability to permit/deny certain commands/behaviours, and a complete audit log of the session, sometimes extending to a screen recording of an rdp session.

My org is looking at dispel.io

I think it is more about paying someone else for “security” than whatever the product actually is and does.

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