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#22Feels like I need to repeat myself more than once a day now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48697258 > These companies providing tokens, whether SOTA or not, that want to IPO are so fucked as time goes on. >Can't sell their SOTA models, only slightly better than the open source models for the models they can sell, cost 20x to 50x for good models, a TAM that consists almost solely of developers, with no customer…
> a TAM that consists almost solely of developers That’s the wrong assumption. These models are good at office docs too.
They're passable at those. And still no moat.
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#23Excellent. I'm very thankful the asian/chinese don't give a fuck about the US government. It feels good to have a competitor.
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This exactly. YC companies literally steal competing company 1:1 and you turn blindeye. Then a thief steals from a thief to give it out at better prices than you write low quality comment. Shame that America will greet 250th anniversary with this kind living in it.
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This exactly. YC companies literally steal competing company 1:1 and you turn blindeye. Then a thief steals from a thief to give it out at better prices than you write low quality comment. Shame that America will greet 250th anniversary with this kind living in it.
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#26So now as a regular American we are behind because gatekeepers saying super intelligence is too scary It was bound to happen soon.
It is scary.
It is not. Where's the danger ? We will need to adapt, as in every technology progress, but what do you think will happen ? Realistically ? Don't feed the fearmongering. Yes, we're disrupting the status quo, if that's the danger, then welcome to the world.
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#27Feels like I need to repeat myself more than once a day now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48697258 > These companies providing tokens, whether SOTA or not, that want to IPO are so fucked as time goes on. >Can't sell their SOTA models, only slightly better than the open source models for the models they can sell, cost 20x to 50x for good models, a TAM that consists almost solely of developers, with no customer…
> a TAM that consists almost solely of developers That’s the wrong assumption. These models are good at office docs too.
But you can do office docs work with way cheaper models
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#28asian is bad wording. this is a japanese startup backed by khosla ventures. japan is an ally of west. the title makes it sound like a chinese company did this.
Patriotism makes people biased. Better to not hold an identity in this area.
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#30asian is bad wording. this is a japanese startup backed by khosla ventures. japan is an ally of west. the title makes it sound like a chinese company did this.
Is that really the most sailent facet of this story? Boxing it by official friend vs foe designations? Don't american academic institutions and corporate entities cooperate closely with Chinese companies as well?
The US and China are in a cold war right now, whether that is fully recognized or not, the fight has already begun. The US is blocking models from getting out of the country and China is blocking researchers from getting out of the country. The expectation should be only more closing off in the future.