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Ok. You loose the war, your country gets occupied and your population suffers. And you are probably a special guest of the maniac next door. Good job. Or that happened to your ally. Also good job. Most people decided millennia ago that man and woman have different duties in war times. Both important. Am I wrong? Why is it, that you have to bring up all these unrelated topics like patriarchy, privileges and nazism? So…
> You loose the war, your country gets occupied and your population suffers My population suffers either way and losing a war to a dictatorship while being a dictatorship doesnt change much. Ukraine doesn't have allies. If it did, they'd be at war with Russia too. > Most people decided millennia ago that man and woman have different duties in war times Guess what, their decisions weren't limited by war times. Men and…
After having a talk with a friend, I agree on this one. Didn't think far enough. Forced military service makes for poor soldiers, especially when you drag them back from an "allied" country. Your governments standing suffers for next to no gain.
> Guess what, their decisions weren't limited by war times. ...
Agreed, but the topic is war times.
> Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Can't rule that out, or just very different perspective. That's the reason for the many dumb questions. Please bear with me.
> This division of duties IS called...
something... Not defending it, just can't see where the "patriarchal system" applies here. If that were relevant in any way, why would we men go to shot each other in the face? Need help here.
> Is that the reason they fled the country
A part of them might have fled to avoid the conscription, agreed. Otherwise it was the massive invasion... My grandparents fled the red army out of Bohemia as well. Didn't change the attachment or fondness towards their old home. Hard to return when someone else live in your home.
> That's inequality by definition.
Agreed.
> I don't see women being forced out back to Ukraine to their responsibilities, though. Do you?
Explained that point pretty well, i think. And we'll remind them about that if they don't lose the war.
> I suggest consistency
It is consistent. What the government wants/says and what is lived is not the same. Also, I never said, I agree with the EU decision. It's stupid and they, again, do their own thing. The decision will probably cost the respective governments a lot of standing with our and the Ukrainian population.
I'm arguing gender equality is the minor issue on that whole thing. It's as you said, we (EU) are no allies. We do the least amount of effort so that ukraine doesn't lose the war, but aren't counted as part of the war. It's shameful.
I guess, we are afraid, if it escalates outside of ukraine, we can't even muster a defense and the risk of nuclear retaliation.
Want to thank you for your time and apologize. I learned a bit the last days. but have the tendency of getting an allergy when people appear to laser-focus on a topic and need to have it applied everywhere and disregard everything else. Have to work on my biases and patience, I guess...