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Texas Man Gets 30 Years in Prison for Transporting 'Anti-Government' Pamphlets

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By tampering he becomes an accessory, which in some juridictions are punished on the same level as the principals. In this case, the principals have been convicted on terrorism charges.

fwiw he wasn't charged as an accessory in this case. He was charged with "corruptly concealing a document or record" and "conspiracy to conceal documents". In fact federal law provides that accessorys can't be sentenced to more than 15 years if the principal crime is punishable by life imprisonment (like terrorism is). > or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisone…

Thanks for the precision.

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The indictment can be read at https://media.freedom.press/media/documents/gov.uscourts.txn... if you want to see the charges. And if the allegations about this being pre-planned (e.g., paragraphs 20 and 21 of the indictment) were supported by enough evidence to persuade the jury (and the jury was persuaded), then it's hard to see how they have a good chance of getting this overturned on appeal. Because unless I great…

Why in 2026 do these indictments have the lousiest black and white photographs ever? I've seen the high quality images in color from the government. Can they not be used during the grand jury process?

The indictment PDF shows every signs of being a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy; it's not just the image that was poor quality. But our brains are so used to correcting for degraded text that we auto-correct for it and don't notice it. We do notice, though, when a photograph is degraded. I'm willing to bet that the original photograph was in color, and that the color photographs were what the grand jury was shown. But the copy filed in the archives was done on a black-and-white photocopier, and that's the copy that ended up in the PDF that Reason linked to.

In fact, I bet there are other sources where someone could find the original PDF of the indictment (the one that was NOT a photocopy of a photocopy): it was a pretty high-profile case, covered by lots of people, so I bet someone has uploaded the original to RECAP. I just grabbed the link from the Reason article and didn't do more digging.

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What you are misleadingly calling "evidence" here is constitutionally protected free speech political materials. It's only "evidence" that he disagreed with the president on immigration, not anything related to a crime. Take a step back and be honest about this situation, even if you dislike the people or disagree with their political views. This is an authoritarian attack on political opponents. Everyone, regardless…

You ... may want to read the indictment before you form an opinion on this one. There were free speech materials in the box, but in the same box there was also evidence of conspiracy to commit violent felonies, and THAT is what the guy's wife had asked him to hide.

EDIT to add: as for a crackdown on dissidents and protestors, how many of the people attending "No Kings" protests have been arrested? How many people attending anti-ICE protests who were not committing other crimes (such as trespassing) in the process have been arrested? And of those arrested, how many of them got length sentences like this?

According to the indictment — and the jury who saw the evidence was convinced enough to convict them on most of the charges — this was a group that had planned ahead to commit violent crimes and claim that they were just protesting. (They showed up with weapons and body armor, clearly prepared ahead of time for violence — and there was more, but the indictment is lengthy and I don't want to repeat all of it). THAT kind of behavior, I want to see cracked down on with as lengthy sentences as the law allows for. Because it endangers everyone, including all the non-violent protestors. (Because at every protest later, the cops will be on edge, wondering at what point someone is going to start shooting at them. And nervous cops are more likely to make mistakes in judgment — and when someone is nervous and armed, mistakes in judgment have a tendency to be lethal.)

I do NOT want peaceful protestors slammed with ridiculous sentences. But these people were NOT peaceful protestors. And I WANT the kind of thing they did cracked down on. My parents lived through the 1970's, with domestic terrorist groups active all over the place, using peaceful protestors as their cover and endangering everyone by their behavior. I do NOT want to live through a repeat of that.

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The judge in these cases, Reed O’Connor of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas has a history of hard right decisions that are overturned on appeal. I don’t know what the options are for these protesters; but I imagine they stand a reasonable chance on appeal.

End qualified immunity for judges.

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you are misleadingly calling "evidence" here is constitutionally protected free speech political materials. It's only "evidence" that he disagreed with the president on immigration, not anything related to a crime. Take a step back and be honest about this situation, even if you dislike the people or disagree with their political views. This is an authoritarian attack on political opponents. Everyone, regardless…

You ... may want to read the indictment before you form an opinion on this one. There were free speech materials in the box, but in the same box there was also evidence of conspiracy to commit violent felonies, and THAT is what the guy's wife had asked him to hide. EDIT to add: as for a crackdown on dissidents and protestors, how many of the people attending "No Kings" protests have been arrested? How many people att…

> They showed up with weapons and body armor, clearly prepared ahead of time for violence

How come this argument doesn't hold water in so many other cases? Americans can't be anti-second amendment but only for people who disagree with the government.

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No he did not. He got the sentence for hiding evidence. The article tries very hard to push an agenda.

Hiding evidence is the normal manner of conducting business for a lot of company managers. Therefore the sentence seems unusually harsh in comparison with the lenience in other equivalent cases.

Hiding evidence of terrorism is something that I hope not many company managers do.

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Please read the comments in the Reason article. Autumn Billings has a track record of distorting the facts.

"Last Independence Day, several protesters were arrested following a demonstration that turned violent outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Prairieland Detention Center."

This was not a spontaneous act. The Antifa folks set up a deadly ambush of federal officials.

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You ... may want to read the indictment before you form an opinion on this one. There were free speech materials in the box, but in the same box there was also evidence of conspiracy to commit violent felonies, and THAT is what the guy's wife had asked him to hide. EDIT to add: as for a crackdown on dissidents and protestors, how many of the people attending "No Kings" protests have been arrested? How many people att…

> They showed up with weapons and body armor, clearly prepared ahead of time for violence How come this argument doesn't hold water in so many other cases? Americans can't be anti-second amendment but only for people who disagree with the government.

Body armor. Showing up with weapons is normal in some places, including Texas. Body armor, not so much. It's the body armor that's the real evidence of preparation.

P.S. Also, there's no inconsistency. Simply apply basic logic. You have the right to be armed. You do not have the right to shoot at law enforcement officials; that's a felony. Nor do you have the right to plan ahead of time to commit a felony, including shooting at law enforcement officials.

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