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Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

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Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

#22

No disrespect to the project here, of course, but I'm wondering why there's no truly high-quality camera for Pis. I have the so-called "high-quality camera" and it still blows. I use it to monitor my 3-D printer with OctoPi, and that's about what it's good for.

There's the Arducam IMX519 with 16 megapixels, Sony IMX 519 sensor

https://www.arducam.com/imx519-autofocus-camera-module-for-r...

Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

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post #3

It's a shame that, being based on a full-blown Linux SBPC, it has an absolutely unacceptable boot time for a camera. 22 seconds. I can have my iPhone camera out and ready to capture an ephemeral moment of child's play in under 3 seconds, most commercial cameras boot in seconds as well. A film camera can be ready to go the second the lens cap is off. 22 seconds is an eternity in the world of photography. It's a shame…

The early Sony Alpha A7 cameras run Android (really: you could jailbreak and write your own PlayMemories apps)

https://github.com/ma1co/sony-pmca-re

https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/59226/does-the-son...

So there must have been a way to do this at that time. (I suspect a simpler subsystem does initial boot response).

I did contemplate building something around one of the Arducam modules and an RP2350.

Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

#26
post #17

No disrespect to the project here, of course, but I'm wondering why there's no truly high-quality camera for Pis. I have the so-called "high-quality camera" and it still blows. I use it to monitor my 3-D printer with OctoPi, and that's about what it's good for.

There's Will Whang's boards - IMX585 [1] (16:9 1"-ish) and even IMX283 [2] (1") and even IMX294 [3] (Micro 4/3). But just those camera boards run $199 to $399, and released in "artisanal quantities" (I think their hand-assembled!)... so you have to pounce when restocked. Soho Enterprise has some IMX585 boards as well and I've seen some IMX585 MIPI CSI boards on aliexpress afair but never tried them I'm experimenting…

Does iPhone use IMX?

Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

#27
post #3

It's a shame that, being based on a full-blown Linux SBPC, it has an absolutely unacceptable boot time for a camera. 22 seconds. I can have my iPhone camera out and ready to capture an ephemeral moment of child's play in under 3 seconds, most commercial cameras boot in seconds as well. A film camera can be ready to go the second the lens cap is off. 22 seconds is an eternity in the world of photography. It's a shame…

Cameras shouldn't need to boot at all.

Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

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post #25
post #3

It's a shame that, being based on a full-blown Linux SBPC, it has an absolutely unacceptable boot time for a camera. 22 seconds. I can have my iPhone camera out and ready to capture an ephemeral moment of child's play in under 3 seconds, most commercial cameras boot in seconds as well. A film camera can be ready to go the second the lens cap is off. 22 seconds is an eternity in the world of photography. It's a shame…

The early Sony Alpha A7 cameras run Android (really: you could jailbreak and write your own PlayMemories apps) https://github.com/ma1co/sony-pmca-re https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/59226/does-the-son... So there must have been a way to do this at that time. (I suspect a simpler subsystem does initial boot response). I did contemplate building something around one of the Arducam modules and an RP2350.

They always ran Linux and Sony ported AOSP userland to it. So it's slightly different to real Android, and those cameras are not always in that mode.

Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

#29
Sounds like a fun project.

Honest question: why would one switch from a much more capable "carry everywhere" smartphone camera to this? Especially since phone is truly carry always & everywhere and that computational processing squeezes out insane amount of photo quality from already excellent phone cameras.

Re: Optocam Zero: a Pi Zero based digital camera made using off the shelf components

#30

Sounds like a fun project. Honest question: why would one switch from a much more capable "carry everywhere" smartphone camera to this? Especially since phone is truly carry always & everywhere and that computational processing squeezes out insane amount of photo quality from already excellent phone cameras.

It would be great for kids who you don’t want to give a phone to. I got something similar for my young kids and they love it.

But also there doesn’t always need to be a “why” beyond it being fun for the creator to create.

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