Can someone explain this in layman terms? I don't understand any of it
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Sakana Fugu
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#22Can someone explain this in layman terms? I don't understand any of it
It's similar to this: https://openrouter.ai/blog/announcements/fusion-beats-fronti...
Basically, if you combine a bunch of near-frontier models (like GPT 5.5, etc) you can get performance that sometimes surpasses top line models like Claude's Fable.
Sakana seems to have a separate approach using a domain specific model to perform the model routing step.
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#23You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not.
While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
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#24You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
TIL: I just found out that base58 disallows I (capital i), l (lowercase L), O (capital o) and 0 (zero), so I could only generate GrxoJt4eNXE2QaQ55iPSa7hhiYdzCo8ZeAuokmh2Cai.
(don't send anything, sharing only because of the base58 fun fact I didn't know)
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#25You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
Pay $0 to run a local model or even a cheap DeepSeek V4 model via their API which is close to free per million tokens.
These prices are just going to get raced to $0.
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#26You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
Pay $0 to run a local model or even a cheap DeepSeek V4 model via their API which is close to free per million tokens. These prices are just going to get raced to $0.
Maybe. But for now it's fascinating how $200/month has kind of become a normal tier.
It's similar to how AirPods normalised all of us having $300+ headphones. All of us would have scoffed at the idea a decade ago.
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#27Just letting you guys know that the model is not a moat.
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#28As a developer outside the US I think it's vital to have alternatives to OpenAI and Anthropic, but sadly this is not it. For $200/month you get https://x.com/cortesi/status/2068898694238486658
Re: Sakana Fugu
#29You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".
Pay $0 to run a local model or even a cheap DeepSeek V4 model via their API which is close to free per million tokens. These prices are just going to get raced to $0.
Not while the hardware required to run a local model at an acceptable speed costs way more than $200.
Guess what, the big players are hoarding all the RAM and GPUs so that other people can't afford decent hardware. It's working out beautifully for them!
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pay $0 to run a local model or even a cheap DeepSeek V4 model via their API which is close to free per million tokens. These prices are just going to get raced to $0.
Maybe. But for now it's fascinating how $200/month has kind of become a normal tier. It's similar to how AirPods normalised all of us having $300+ headphones. All of us would have scoffed at the idea a decade ago.
Many people here spent a lot more than $300 on headphones long before AirPods appeared.