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It's just sad how much wealth and how many lives have been spent for absolutely nothing.
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The Iranian civilians would never back a US / Israeli backed coup of their government. They distrust us because of the Shah / 1960s.
A bad peace will be better than this war. I know people want to stick this into some kind of winners vs losers discussion but I for one would be happy if it reliably ended. It's very difficult for me to think of such a terrible peace agreement that I'd personally reject it.
It's just sad how much wealth and how many lives have been spent for absolutely nothing.
It ain't over until Bibi says it's over. Trump is pissing his pants trying to get out of this anyway he can but Bibi won't let him. I'm sure our military was against this from day one, but the Fox news host and the Real Estate developer thought they knew better but, in the end Bibi and Israel call the shots and America obeys.... Just saying...Junk away...
I think a serious news institution would not run this title even in an Opinions section.
It vaguely sounds as though there is some sort of nuclear deal in the works ... but the US already had a nuclear deal with Iran, that Trump tore up. So I guess you could squint and say that the US won something back that was previously foolishly discarded.
I think a serious news institution would not run this title even in an Opinions section.
Does this answer your note? (That's Bloomberg above - "phrase it as you want...")
I think a serious news institution would not run this title even in an Opinions section.
Trump Celebrates While America Capitulates The peace deal with Tehran is an Iranian victory.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/trump-iran-deal/68...
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> A bad peace will be better than this war We're no longer in a position to unilaterally disengage. If the IRGC decides its political establishment is wrong and starts potting random shit again, we'll be dragged back in.
I know Iran likely has a fractured government, but more assassinations vs various Iranian leadership won't exactly solve that issue. (Indeed, it's incredibly stupid that we assassinated so many leaders to the point that the peace deal is so shaky) This is as unified as Iran is going to get in the near future. So we gotta work with what we have.
I'm not saying we don't negotiate. I'm saying we shouldn't expect the results of any negotiations to hold. Various parties will keep trying to torpedo the peace, including by attacking American interests, because they either think they can get more or profited from the war.
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The real game is that the US isn’t in charge, and the guy in the White House is in over his head along with his yes men and the rest of the world appears to be making arrangements and moving on.
> ...and the rest of the world appears to be making arrangements and moving on. This. Pax Americana is dead.
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Let’s say this is the case it still does not explain what the real end game looks like. What do you think?
I don't know. It's a quagmire where America finds itself with no good options. Bibi and Israel set in motion a trap that the USA can't easily escape. Netanyahu never believed America would back down, and America never believed it could lose. So what now? Do you surrender? Do you invade? Trump and Hegseth, being the fools they are, were never equipped to deal with a situation like this. The only outcome they seriously…
Clearly the answer is you pay them off.