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The rich aren't your role models

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Re: The rich aren't your role models

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Post by anon291 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #12
mrtomservo wrote: post #9

I wonder if unchecked capital accumulation combined with cutting the social safety net and major public works will lead to commerce without customers: An economy built on consumption where nobody has the money to consume.

It’s all moving to a service economy for the wealthy as the only consumers. You can see this most dramatically in Las Vegas right now: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHwU4lQ46nA

This is because America builds nothing anymore. Consider Disneyland. It's expensive as hell. But also there are more people in America than ever. You'd think they'd have built another one, but they haven't. Why?

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Post by wyrdcurt »

thegrim33 wrote: post #3

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Partisan? I saw no mention of any political party.

Hate-filled? Are you sure you don't just disagree?

Not arguing that it deserves to be on top or anything, but I thought HN encourages substantive commentary over complaints about the algorithm.

Personally I think it's obscene for any individual to be a trillionaire, and in my experience, that's not necessarily partisan; there are many people across the political spectrum(s) who would agree.

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Post by Empact »

fzeroracer wrote: post #7

I wonder what it would take to shake America of the whole 'temporarily embarrassed millionaire' problem. At this point I assume even a hard economic crash pioneered and gleefully supported by the rich isn't enough of a cold water splash. I think that mentality is too locked in for a large subset of Americans. Musk has been increasingly getting more and more rancid and that doesn't seem to deter his supporters at all.

Leftists ask “why don’t Americans hate capitalism,” while Americans live in one of the most prosperous and advanced societies in the world.

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Post by waterTanuki »

thegrim33 wrote: post #3

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> A completely partisan, hate-filled/inducing rant, posted by an account which effectively makes this type of thing 50% of the type of content they submit. Yet the algorithm has it at the very top of HN.

You realize you're making a political statement in and of itself? There's no such thing as enlightened centrism.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

ynac wrote: post #20
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I upvoted it and I don’t usually vote up stories but this is exactly what we need to see. As reference my article that said more or less the same as this article, was #1 on the front page for almost a whole day in 2024: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39569747 I’m excited to see the sea change in political sentiment and how people are talking, so I’m 100% here for it.

Have to say, the headline alone had me reaching for the pointy hat. Wonder if it was the statistical anomalie or the content that got the parent comment to post?

I think people are starting to actually realize that they have been scammed and what Zinn, Chomsky, Bookchin, Sagan et al have been shouting about was always right

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Post by _alternator_ »

thegrim33 wrote: post #3

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Likely due to fairly low traffic this time of day, so easy to get momentum. Also, maybe marxists hang out in HN on Sunday night?

But yeah a quick skim shows it's not really worth reading. If you want Marxism, read Marx. It's odd to me that the "excess value theory of labor" still has so many adherents, but at least get it from the source.

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Post by derektank »

fzeroracer wrote: post #7

I wonder what it would take to shake America of the whole 'temporarily embarrassed millionaire' problem. At this point I assume even a hard economic crash pioneered and gleefully supported by the rich isn't enough of a cold water splash. I think that mentality is too locked in for a large subset of Americans. Musk has been increasingly getting more and more rancid and that doesn't seem to deter his supporters at all.

One doesn’t have to imagine themselves a future millionaire to be wary of granting the state the ability to confiscate private property. There’s a very real risk that they’ll come for the modern equivalent of the kulaks next.
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