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Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

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Re: Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

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post #11

A vibecoded petition with no clear expected outcomes and no actionable items whatsoever. Is it just a honeypot to get names and emails? Why would people sign something like that?

You and I can smell vibe coded slop miles away. Most people can’t.

Re: Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

#22
So where is the button to say NO, we dont want Siri in the EU? Also, what BS is this LOL:

``` Delay has a cost.

Every month without modern assistants is a month of European students, workers, and businesses falling behind people elsewhere who already have these tools in their pocket. ```

Re: Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

#23

Yeah, I wish there was an easy way to thumbs-down a petition. > Whatever the dispute between Apple and EU regulators Sounds like OP doesn't even know what the topic is, he just wants new Siri on his iPhone, and that's enough reason to pressure regulators into bending the rules in Apple's direction. As another iPhone customer in the EU, I'd much rather prefer EU and its sovereign member states to be able to make their…

It's funny you think Apple is the hostile party in the dispute.

Re: Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

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post #19
post #9

Why should any company acquiesce to a contemptible organization that ruined the web with useless cookie nag screens and is hellbent on banning encryption? The EU has done severe damage to the security of the web by training users to click accept on nag screens like the EU-required cookie popups (83% click accept).

sure the EU is the problem of the web, no the horrible corporations sucking up every little piece of personal information they can to sell it. I feel so sorry for the suffering you have experiences while having to click "i accept", even when thats not even a requirement of the EU, just a sign of the horrible practices of the giant (mostly American) corporations.

The corporations can be evil and the government can also be incompetent and/or evil at the same time. It's not a dichotomy.

Re: Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple does have some good counter arguments. Where there is data, there will be bad actors who want that data - and I trust Apple far more to behave than I trust some random shell company being run by some secret service. By definition, an AI assistant needs read-write access to all your data. We've seen enough reports of badly implemented AI here, we've seen enough scammers exploiting data troughs...

sure, but google will still get all your queries, so when you ask about something specific, you dont think they will figure out you are John Smith, on street X, asking about the ice cream shop down the street?

> sure, but google will still get all your queries,

They do not. Per Apple's documentation, they run on Apple's Private Compute Cloud [1] - while part of Google's GCP, full confidentiality is guaranteed that even Apple itself is not able to access user data.

That's more of an effort than I see any single competitor even attempting.

[1] https://security.apple.com/blog/expanding-pcc/

[2] https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-third...

Re: Bring Siri AI to EU iPhone Users Safely

#26

Yeah, I wish there was an easy way to thumbs-down a petition. > Whatever the dispute between Apple and EU regulators Sounds like OP doesn't even know what the topic is, he just wants new Siri on his iPhone, and that's enough reason to pressure regulators into bending the rules in Apple's direction. As another iPhone customer in the EU, I'd much rather prefer EU and its sovereign member states to be able to make their…

It's funny you think Apple is the hostile party in the dispute.

It's funny someone takes an Apple statement at face value instead of reading it for exactly what it is: they asked to be excluded from the law that was introduced to prevent exactly what Apple is trying to do.

After being denied an exception (which would have made mockery of the law), they come out all passive aggressive how EU is "not constructive".

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