12mph seems very slow, but I suppose you can still cycle in the carriageway if you're a decent cyclist? Really we need to ban motorised vehicles that go above 12mph. They are not bicycles and should not be in cycleways. I feel there is a big difference between someone who is able to pedal at higher speeds and someone who is just using a motor vehicle.
Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
21–30 of 67 posts
Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#22They need a distinction between pedal assist and fully electric (motor) bike. I live in Luxembourg and the infrastructure is not as good as the Netherlands. Majority of offenders (in my experience) are delivery guys and teenagers. Where teenagers simply don't care & do reckless things like passing on a big intersection at full speed on a red light, delivery guys do the same things for extra tips. Some of the fat-tire…
Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#23The boundary between a bicycle and a motorbike has completely dissapeared. That boundary needs to be recovered, and then rules will make sense again, until then, any effort is futile.
I think it's pretty clear what is a bicycle. Bicycles don't have engines.
Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#24Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could’ve said what you said except the “immigrant kind” bit. I see enough Dutch assholes on fat bikes just as well. No need to be xenophobic here.
Nah, its almost for sure xenophobic and classist. I think fat bikes are the best thing that happened to amsterdam because all the scooters disappeared. All the poor people that used to ride scooters are now riding fat bikes. Its better for their health and their wallet. Yes they tend to be a bit less educated and socialised, but they were like that when they drove scooters as well. Banning fat bikes is gesture politi…
Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#26Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#27Re: Trial of 12mph bike lane speed limit grinds gears of Dutch cyclists
#28If you want to go faster, pedal yourself.
This solves two problems:
- Cool kids aren't cool anymore, biking on their now slow ass fatbikes
- Old people who's mental faculties can't keep up with 25km/h anymore dont end up in so many traffic accidents.