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EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

I bought one because I had a feeling that the price of used EVs was about to shoot up

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

This also coincides with EVs becoming better and cheaper

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, Trump enacted a de facto global carbon tax.

The carbon tax is supposed to finance things, what Trump has done is more like forcing the crisis. More like an acceleration

Well most of the increase in prices goes into petroleum companies' profits (at least the ones that can export). So it's technically not lost and will be invested somehow.

Like a Carbon tax, the money doesn't disappear. But to whom it gets distributed, that's another story...

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Renault seems to have made a sensibly priced range with some classic styles too. Familiar cars but with EV, rather than early adopter cars like the Nissan Leaf or weird tech bro cars.

The Renault 5 is selling like crazy. Makes sense why, reasonable price, good design, made in Europe EV. It's what a lot of people have been waiting for.

You're not wrong - I see about 10 of these a day driving around. And that's a car model that is only about a year old. It's selling like hot cakes.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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And demand will probably go up a lot further still. Right now fuel prices are kept artificially low by every country releasing their strategic reserves, but these will run out at some point. Europe is heading into the worst energy crisis since at least the 1970s, possibly worse. And yet very little is happening to prepare for it. Definitely some fun times ahead.

The US is on pace to run out of its strategic reserve in ~2 weeks.

I don't think that's true, but if it is then Iran would be foolish to make a deal right now.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

> It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. Recent events? Russia going rogue and the US going haywire both happened a decade ago at least. Those are two major suppliers of fossil fuel for Europe. The current trend was bound to happen, it only required time for the industry to pivot.

We're commenting on the fact that demand has surged in the last few months. Russian and American behavior from a decade ago didn't (directly) cause that.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

It moves up people's purchasing plans. If you were expecting to replace your vehicle in the next two years because of performance degradation, and now your fuel costs are substantially higher, then a purchase today might make more sense than your original plan.

Of even if people are just considering and EV as compared to an ICE car they may think "you know what, who knows when fuel prices will come down? maybe I just switch now!"

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

The thing is a lot of people might be right at the tipping point of buying an EV and then some news like this comes out and it pushes them over the line. I feel EVs at this moment are right at the level of “I’m gonna buy a new car, but maybe I’ll wait for the one after before I jump into an EV”. Better batteries (solid state), better charging speeds and more fast charger availability seem to have a large group of peo…

It’s not a bad idea. I bought in 2022 and the range of newer EVs is already a lot more than mine. But I really enjoy my car and don’t have much pressure to take so many roadtrips.

What I can’t see doing is buying a new ICE now. If you just want something to hold you over a few years, buy used or lease.

Re: EV demand up 50% in France and Germany since Iran war

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It’s so wild to me to make a multiyear purchasing decision based upon recent events. My next car will be an EV not suggesting it’s a bad decision however I’m still blown away by statistics like this.

The thing is a lot of people might be right at the tipping point of buying an EV and then some news like this comes out and it pushes them over the line. I feel EVs at this moment are right at the level of “I’m gonna buy a new car, but maybe I’ll wait for the one after before I jump into an EV”. Better batteries (solid state), better charging speeds and more fast charger availability seem to have a large group of peo…

That makes no sense to me. I've had an EV for five years and right now the infrastructure is fantastic in comparison. There are chargers everywhere, they're fast enough, and the prices are reasonable. The batteries are also quite large. I see absolutely no reason to buy an IC car any more. Many people have solar panels installed, making the commute practically free.
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