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CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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The article is pretty light on details, but > Much like other CRISPR therapies, delivery is a critical challenge, i.e., getting the large genome-cutting enzyme to all the targeted cells efficiently. makes me think this is in vitro so far. So, years to decades away from being available for actual treatment in humans. Still good news.

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I suppose it could also be used to assassinate specific persons with the precision of DNA matching. Like FOXDIE.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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post #17

The article is pretty light on details, but > Much like other CRISPR therapies, delivery is a critical challenge, i.e., getting the large genome-cutting enzyme to all the targeted cells efficiently. makes me think this is in vitro so far. So, years to decades away from being available for actual treatment in humans. Still good news.

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Old concern, but it really doesn't work that way. Genetics don't respect human ideas like "nationalities" or "borders" - the targeting you can get by selecting on singular DNA variants is coarse enough to make ICBMs look like precision weapons.

Like many things of this nature, people keep bringing it up because it sounds Very Scary and Very Dystopian - not because it's worth giving an actual fuck about.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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Over on reddit people were debating whether cancer should be cured since it disproportionately affects rich people and it made me realise how far reddit has fallen. It's just a botnet now to manipulate elections.

After we launched our startup, we had all sorts of folks reach out to sell their GTM services. I went with one group from Vietnam that would make engagement bait Reddit questions with some accounts, and advertise our product in the comments section with others. It was expensive but it worked

Reddit is a huge danger to society. There's no doubt that subs about specific non political (and non popular) topics are hugely beneficial, the overall damage the echo chambers do still outweigh these benefits.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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post #23

This is why I hate patents. If CRISPR were put behind a paywall, none of this would have happened. Everything having to be about profit is getting tiring.

> This is why I hate patents. If CRISPR were put behind a paywall, none of this would have happened. Everything having to be about profit is getting tiring.

CRISPR was the cause of a huge patent case and likely led to a change in US patent law because of the impracticability of deciding who did something first in the laboratory.

It continues to influence research as some nations took a while to decide how they would resolve their own researchers' CRISPR claims with respect to MIT/UC Berkeley.

And yet... all the research has continued apace.

Edit: the CRISPR patent cases are continuing even today

https://news.berkeley.edu/2025/05/12/federal-appeals-court-s...

https://www.broadinstitute.org/crispr/journalists-statement-...

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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What economic / political model would cause the society to prioritize this over adtech? It seems so unsettling that brilliant human minds are trying hard, every day, to figure out how to make it impossible to bypass watching ads on YouTube, instead of helping cure cancer.

> would cause the society to prioritize this over adtech?

Private pharmaceutical R&D spending in the U.S. is around $100bn per year [1]. NIH spends another $50bn a year on biomedical research [2].

That eclipses total investments into adtech per se, which generously counted shouldn’t exceed $50 to 60bn. (And that only by counting like a third to a half of Google, Amazon, et cetera R&D and capital spending as adtech.) More precisely counted, it probably doesn’t exceed $10bn.

[1] https://phrma.org/blog/phrma-member-companies-rd-investments...

[2] https://www.science.org/content/article/final-nih-budget-202...

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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post #5

What economic / political model would cause the society to prioritize this over adtech? It seems so unsettling that brilliant human minds are trying hard, every day, to figure out how to make it impossible to bypass watching ads on YouTube, instead of helping cure cancer.

I don't think an economic model would work. Only a political one would work where the government would redirect a lot of funds towards this, making it a lucrative profession.

Adtech works because there is a lot of money in it. There is a lot of money in it because people seek quick entertainment, and we have a LOT of people driving the demand.

Now compare that to cancer research. There's no short term gratification about it.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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The article is pretty light on details, but > Much like other CRISPR therapies, delivery is a critical challenge, i.e., getting the large genome-cutting enzyme to all the targeted cells efficiently. makes me think this is in vitro so far. So, years to decades away from being available for actual treatment in humans. Still good news.

Basically the issue is often that gene therapies end up in the liver since its the livers job to detoxify, but that may cause a dangerous immune response if the immune system notices it in the liver and attacks the organ, since the person could die from the damage.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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The article is pretty light on details, but > Much like other CRISPR therapies, delivery is a critical challenge, i.e., getting the large genome-cutting enzyme to all the targeted cells efficiently. makes me think this is in vitro so far. So, years to decades away from being available for actual treatment in humans. Still good news.

Basically the issue is often that gene therapies end up in the liver since its the livers job to detoxify, but that may cause a dangerous immune response if the immune system notices it in the liver and attacks the organ, since the person could die from the damage.

I’m assuming this has been tried, but why doesn’t nano-encapsulated mRNA (that then makes the CRISPR sequences in cells) or whatever the peptide injectors do solve the problem?

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

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post #17

The article is pretty light on details, but > Much like other CRISPR therapies, delivery is a critical challenge, i.e., getting the large genome-cutting enzyme to all the targeted cells efficiently. makes me think this is in vitro so far. So, years to decades away from being available for actual treatment in humans. Still good news.

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You can target an individual by injecting that very individual with something lethal.

If that's not what you want, you'd need something like a virus to spread it. But then you have to ask yourself: what if that virus mutates? The specialization to certain gene markers is an evolutionary disadvantage, so evolution will tend to make it lose that restriction. Ooops.

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