Researchers discover that monks (who are actually human beings) can deliberate, adapt and problem solve. Together. Like adults. Crazy world we live in that this has been proven possible.
Historic co-determination helps monasteries navigate digital change
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#22Religion was behind the spread of printed books, at least here in Europe, so this seems in line.
It was also behind unspeakable acts of massive cultural destruction, so there's that.
Oh if religion wasn't responsible for "massive cultural destruction" then mankind would have invented something else to do it (whatever is meant by "massive cultural destruction").
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was also behind unspeakable acts of massive cultural destruction, so there's that.
Source? Proofs? Do communism and secular humanism count as "religions" here?
The Crusaides and literally all of British colonialism.
Do you not know anything about history?
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#24Re: Historic co-determination helps monasteries navigate digital change
#25The monks likely have the time to think about implementation, and feeling like they’re part of an institution that transcends them and that they value for its own sake, they likely have an incentive to invest effort into maintaining and improving it. Both of these are unlike, say, corporate environments, where the core work uses up almost all available time and where most people are looking mostly to extract somethin…
Your comment (and some others) have me imagining an alternate reality where the vatican runs the equivalent of github and all major FOSS infrastructure is maintained by religious orders. (There's probably a controversy where the catholic and islamic GPL equivalent licenses are incompatible for inane reasons.)
You joke, but, leaving religion out of it, it's plausible that if the want long lived infrastructure that's maintained with integrity, it may be that tithing of some description is part of the solution. Currently the closest we have is patron, but most of those are still part of hustle culture rather than the supporters feeling a long term obligation.
Re: Historic co-determination helps monasteries navigate digital change
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your comment (and some others) have me imagining an alternate reality where the vatican runs the equivalent of github and all major FOSS infrastructure is maintained by religious orders. (There's probably a controversy where the catholic and islamic GPL equivalent licenses are incompatible for inane reasons.)
You joke, but, leaving religion out of it, it's plausible that if the want long lived infrastructure that's maintained with integrity, it may be that tithing of some description is part of the solution. Currently the closest we have is patron, but most of those are still part of hustle culture rather than the supporters feeling a long term obligation.
The long term obligation for them is created by the very thing you wanted to leave out.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was also behind unspeakable acts of massive cultural destruction, so there's that.
Oh if religion wasn't responsible for "massive cultural destruction" then mankind would have invented something else to do it (whatever is meant by "massive cultural destruction").
I disagree. When you are absolutely sure that God itself is on your side, then there is no atrocity to big to commit. I feel that religious zeal has led to some of the worst catastrophes in human history. I would put para-religious zeal in that category too, like dogmatic forms of communism.
Re: Historic co-determination helps monasteries navigate digital change
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was also behind unspeakable acts of massive cultural destruction, so there's that.
Source? Proofs? Do communism and secular humanism count as "religions" here?
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh if religion wasn't responsible for "massive cultural destruction" then mankind would have invented something else to do it (whatever is meant by "massive cultural destruction").
I disagree. When you are absolutely sure that God itself is on your side, then there is no atrocity to big to commit. I feel that religious zeal has led to some of the worst catastrophes in human history. I would put para-religious zeal in that category too, like dogmatic forms of communism.
You can substitute "Truth", "Most Rational Action", or "Reality" in for God in your sentence and still get the same meaning.
People can and will justify almost everything.
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#30The monks likely have the time to think about implementation, and feeling like they’re part of an institution that transcends them and that they value for its own sake, they likely have an incentive to invest effort into maintaining and improving it. Both of these are unlike, say, corporate environments, where the core work uses up almost all available time and where most people are looking mostly to extract somethin…
That also sound a lot like the Amish. Take the time to think about implementation, advantages, disadvantages and the societal impact of a technology, before committing to it.