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The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

I visited Cuba and found that Castro's popularity is fairly universal there. I have never been to Miami and don't know any Cuban immigrants, though.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

> Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro.

Many will also not want to tell you any stories about what their family did in cuba.

Like I'm not trying to downplay the real violence and excesses. But read about how americans talked about cuba pre-castro, what they expected from the place during batista's dictatorship.

The deeply entrenched feudal-type rural poverty provided the raw human material for the mafia to create a vile playground for their own fantasies and sell it to other wealthy americans. Epstein economy shit. Castro didn't come out of nowhere, he harnessed the deep disgust and pain of a people being treated as things for money and pleasure. So yeah the sugar plantation landlords, the batista enforcers, the mafia sex slave sourcers were running for their lives. A lot other people got caught up too, absolutely. But ask your hypothetical cuban immigrant some followup questions. It's not always exactly personal why they hate castro.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

There is a strong argument that the Cuban government has treated many Cuban citizens very badly. But the assertion that this mistreatment is why the US is behaving aggressively towards Cuba is pretty naive. The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients.

>The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients.

I thought the motivation was ideological, chiefly from the cuban exiles voter base, of which Rubio is a part of? Aside from maybe tobacco, cuba doesn't have much natural resources. That's why it's so poor.

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post #13

Maybe. But also, if the regime falls, you know who will become richer and more healthy? ALL CUBANS! If bad people do the right thing for the wrong reasons, we should be thankful, not angry.

Should the Cubans that will inevitably be killed along the way be thankful as well? Or the Cubans currently suffering due to the blockade?

Even for clearly despotic regimes, overthrowing them is not the obviously right thing.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

right yer...Trump admin is gonna pause and hear out their grievances...in a pipe's dream. Blatant corruption with no shame waging unrestricted economic warfare. Greed is the policy.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a strong argument that the Cuban government has treated many Cuban citizens very badly. But the assertion that this mistreatment is why the US is behaving aggressively towards Cuba is pretty naive. The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients.

>The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients. I thought the motivation was ideological, chiefly from the cuban exiles voter base, of which Rubio is a part of? Aside from maybe tobacco, cuba doesn't have much natural resources. That's why it's so poor.

Behind every ideological move is a rich man trying to get richer.

That is to say, ideology may do some heavy lifting, but the buy-in to actually translate that to action requires a profit motive.

Reading current events is a whole lot easier once you disabuse yourself of the idea that everything happens for a reason.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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post #22

The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

I visited Cuba and found that Castro's popularity is fairly universal there. I have never been to Miami and don't know any Cuban immigrants, though.

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Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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Trump's problem is that he sees the US and the world only through the lens of maximizing profits for his cronies. In the face of global warming and climate change, this is extremely harmful to the country and the world. His attitude is always win-lose, never win-win.
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