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A whale necropolis has been found

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Re: A whale necropolis has been found

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Colonizing another planet will never be easier than our own biosphere. That claim for SpaceX is pure nonsense.

The human condition is delicate and mortal, when you realise this you realise how important it is to do everything you can for Elon Musk while he's still alive

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Re: A whale necropolis has been found

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Colonizing another planet will never be easier than our own biosphere. That claim for SpaceX is pure nonsense.

The human condition is delicate and mortal, when you realise this you realise how important it is to do everything you can for Elon Musk while he's still alive

Did you buy SpaceX stock? Will you buy more and keep buying?

Re: A whale necropolis has been found

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I’ve always wanted to start a company that builds automated underwater swarms of “probes” that just search and return info and carry out small exploration tasks but over long amounts of time and space. Do it right and you can send the first underwater explorers to Europa. Hard to find the right way to monetize in the early stages though. SpaceX had a variety of options.

I actually work in this space. The difficulties of long-running underwater probes should not be discounted. Comms bandwidth without a tether is… quite slow. Dealing with even the tiniest drops of water inside the system is… a real problem. Salt water is also quite a problem. Deploy and retrieve is a real problem. I won’t say I think outer space is easier, but the problem space is very different.

> Salt water is also quite a problem

As a boat owner, I have had quite a time with salt water issues. Anything with an electrical current going through it exposed to salt and water is subject to serious, rapid corrosion. What you might imagine is "stainless" steel will, in fact, rust (unless correctly passivated and treated). The galvanic scale is not to be trifled with :). I can only imagine it gets exponentially worse the further below the surface you go.

Re: A whale necropolis has been found

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I’ve always wanted to start a company that builds automated underwater swarms of “probes” that just search and return info and carry out small exploration tasks but over long amounts of time and space. Do it right and you can send the first underwater explorers to Europa. Hard to find the right way to monetize in the early stages though. SpaceX had a variety of options.

> Hard to find the right way to monetize in the early stages though. Fugro got a tonne of money for sidescan surveys of large areas north of this Diamantina fracture zone up to the equator .. looking for traces of the lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The search for the missing aircraft became the most expensive search in the history of aviation. It focused initially on the South China Sea and Andaman Sea, before a…

somehow Ive always thought fugro was a person and not a company

Re: A whale necropolis has been found

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I feel like maybe we've needed an "OceanX" before a "SpaceX".

> I feel like maybe we've needed an "OceanX" before a "SpaceX" SpaceX is based on the idea that our planet will someday be uninhabitable, so we need to be ready to colonize other planets. The sooner we start, the sooner we get there. OceanX might be fun science, but it's not going to save us.

The implication that SpaceX will "save us" is quite funny. If that was something the world truly worried about, our hopes cannot be on an american private company that might or might not save someone depending on their preferences or their political views.

The whole idea that we can simply pop off earth and colonize another planet is literally insane. There is a reason why no governement across the world is treating colonizing mars as a serious mission.

It is the same marketing technique as "AI WILL DESTROY THE WORLD so we must make it" fear-mongering based marketing. Of course a rocket company wants people to colonize mars, doesn't mean its going to "save" humanity.

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> Hard to find the right way to monetize in the early stages though. Fugro got a tonne of money for sidescan surveys of large areas north of this Diamantina fracture zone up to the equator .. looking for traces of the lost Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. The search for the missing aircraft became the most expensive search in the history of aviation. It focused initially on the South China Sea and Andaman Sea, before a…

somehow Ive always thought fugro was a person and not a company

They're relatively big players in geodesy with fleets of ships, aircraft, land vehicles gathering all manner of multi channel and spectral data at, above, and below surface level (for all the surfaces, geodetic, gravitational, magnetic, Mean Sea, etc).

They tie in with the majors that build and deploy infrastructure for oil, gas, mineral exploration and exploitation.

Re: A whale necropolis has been found

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> I feel like maybe we've needed an "OceanX" before a "SpaceX" SpaceX is based on the idea that our planet will someday be uninhabitable, so we need to be ready to colonize other planets. The sooner we start, the sooner we get there. OceanX might be fun science, but it's not going to save us.

The implication that SpaceX will "save us" is quite funny. If that was something the world truly worried about, our hopes cannot be on an american private company that might or might not save someone depending on their preferences or their political views. The whole idea that we can simply pop off earth and colonize another planet is literally insane. There is a reason why no governement across the world is treating…

>The implication that SpaceX will "save us" is quite funny.

nobody implied that. some people state the hope for it but that does not include me, I simply explained why OceanX does not satisfy SpaceX's goals.

everybody on this site is interested in the topic of exploring other planets in any solar system. that's all SpaceX is trying to do, but because of extraneous irrational unmet emotional needs people here simply lose their shit when the topic of SpaceX comes up.

Meanwhile, SpaceX will continue to be NASA's primary subcontractor. "Les chiens aboient, la caravane passe." (The dogs bark. The caravan passes.)

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