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Dopamine Fracking

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Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by sandcat_ »

protocolture wrote: post #4

"movies becoming too Marvel" I dunno, I love hating modern thing as much as the next guy, but this is just people being hyper sensitive. Your average 80s action comedy quips the same as any Marvel film.

I think the criticism isn’t around Marvel films being Marvel, but rather the reaction to Marvel films being popular to make every film like a Marvel film. Can’t really comment if that’s true, though I’ve definitely noticed an increase in films becoming franchises, etc, but I think that was the implication.

Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by froh »

bsimpson wrote: post #3

He's right - that phrase evokes what he means better than many alternatives. But this feels like an article where you get all the useful info in the title. The rest is just a rant about the modern internet being bad for your brain.

i got much more out of it and it's intelligently written

I see this structure:

* introduce dopamine fracking

* the wonderful strawberry analogy to what we loose, personally, by giving in to the substitue for the real thing

* how they (the author) managed to in baby steps turn down attempts at fracking _their_ dopamine: through awareness of what's happening and what were missing because of it

so until there is some bigger scale solution, we can at least self regulate.

and overall the article is a positive note in difficult times.

I especially loved the strawberry analogy.

Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by aaron695 »

bsimpson wrote: post #3

He's right - that phrase evokes what he means better than many alternatives. But this feels like an article where you get all the useful info in the title. The rest is just a rant about the modern internet being bad for your brain.

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Re: Dopamine Fracking

#24

Post by vasco »

Few people I've talked to have had a stable "Why are you here and what is your purpose", and of course you can't even ask this of people who aren't super close to you.

But without that it seems like most people optimize for some form of wireheading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirehead_(science_fiction) through any means possible. I genuinely believe if people could stay home triggering dopamine hits over and over they would. It's as if we read all the philosophers in the world but then went back to the Greek Hedonists.

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Post by hattmall »

This has been happening in the real world for far longer. It's basically the experience of many modern cities, or even worse suburbs.

Starbucks / Chipotle / Orange Theory / Target / Generic Brewery / Lime Scooter / Waymo / Subscribe N Save

So much of modern life has been comodified to optimize for things that aren't necessarily what's inline with the users interests and certainly don't do anything for cultural robustness.

Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by dabedee »

It's great that someone penned their experience and path towards self-awareness in a way that helps others achieve the same. Or, at least for me, it put words on an uneasy feeling I hadn't yet fully materialized. I too would be saddened if the flattening of our shared human experiences accelerated even more.

Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by protocolture »

sandcat_ wrote: post #21
protocolture wrote: post #4

"movies becoming too Marvel" I dunno, I love hating modern thing as much as the next guy, but this is just people being hyper sensitive. Your average 80s action comedy quips the same as any Marvel film.

I think the criticism isn’t around Marvel films being Marvel, but rather the reaction to Marvel films being popular to make every film like a Marvel film. Can’t really comment if that’s true, though I’ve definitely noticed an increase in films becoming franchises, etc, but I think that was the implication.

I see "It was just a marvel\disney film" as a substitute for thoughtful criticism on basically every film these days. Usually they say they hate the humour. Even though if anything theres more humourless films these days than ever before.

Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by PeterStuer »

hattmall wrote: post #25

This has been happening in the real world for far longer. It's basically the experience of many modern cities, or even worse suburbs. Starbucks / Chipotle / Orange Theory / Target / Generic Brewery / Lime Scooter / Waymo / Subscribe N Save So much of modern life has been comodified to optimize for things that aren't necessarily what's inline with the users interests and certainly don't do anything for cultural robust…

I think a significant contributer to franchize style commoditized homogenization is modern anxiety. Millenials especially seem near exclusively drawn to the 'predictable' and curated 'peer approved' nature of recognizable 'safe' brand signals.

Re: Dopamine Fracking

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Post by praptak »

hattmall wrote: post #25

This has been happening in the real world for far longer. It's basically the experience of many modern cities, or even worse suburbs. Starbucks / Chipotle / Orange Theory / Target / Generic Brewery / Lime Scooter / Waymo / Subscribe N Save So much of modern life has been comodified to optimize for things that aren't necessarily what's inline with the users interests and certainly don't do anything for cultural robust…

This is alienation as described by Marx. If you optimize a thing, at some point it becomes separated from its nature.
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