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Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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Humans can likely be cloned too. Imagine 10,000 Albert Einsteins and John von Neumanns working together with modern AI on medical, scientific, and societal issues. Though there could be an Evil Einstein due to upbringing or something.

Nope, that's what relativistic slugs are for

Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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Another Argentina/cloning-connected story is that President Javier Milei cloned his dog Conan at least four times: https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-04-26/the-myst... The stories make me wonder if Argentina is a cloning hotspot, though I may be reading too much into two stories.

That is where many of the nazi war doctors who escaped prosecution ended up…

Not as many as the ones that the US snatched in operation paperclip

Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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Humans can likely be cloned too. Imagine 10,000 Albert Einsteins and John von Neumanns working together with modern AI on medical, scientific, and societal issues. Though there could be an Evil Einstein due to upbringing or something.

You are such an optimist. We are more likely to get clones of athletes, and clones of billionaires for the organ donation options.

I doubt people like Jonas Salk would accept being cloned if they could help it

Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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The thing is, what if there's an even better horse out there? Once you get on the cloning bandwagon, don't you also lock yourself out of looking/evolving an even better horse?

There’s commodities and then R&D. Ignoring every other moral consideration, this horse cloning has turned a biological asset into a (relative)commodity, and if people were looking for better horses they’d stick to the randomized mutation of regular breeding which has that built in as a feature.

This isn’t even the only instance of this technique. You can look at the Argentinian president Milei who hired a company to provide him with consistent advisors in the form of cloned dogs he talks with through a mystic[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_(Javier_Milei%27s_dog)

Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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For a brief moment I thought this would be about something like robotic polo ponies, and considered the idea that four-legged high agility, high endurance robots had advanced significantly without me noticing.

Though we are not yet competitive in the Argentinian Polo clone wars, we are making significant progress - https://www.satyress.com/

A concerning amount of that product page is spent explaining how it has to slow down to pass through doorways, its inability to turn around in hallways, and its weak points you can use to disable one with a knife or gunshot. I feel like I'm reading a tutorial for how to defeat a tricky enemy in a video game.

Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though we are not yet competitive in the Argentinian Polo clone wars, we are making significant progress - https://www.satyress.com/

A concerning amount of that product page is spent explaining how it has to slow down to pass through doorways, its inability to turn around in hallways, and its weak points you can use to disable one with a knife or gunshot. I feel like I'm reading a tutorial for how to defeat a tricky enemy in a video game.

that's a forward thinking robotics company right there. putting in weakspots for when the centaur robot revolution begins. so we have a chance.

Re: Field of clones: How horse replicas came to dominate polo

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For a brief moment I thought this would be about something like robotic polo ponies, and considered the idea that four-legged high agility, high endurance robots had advanced significantly without me noticing.

Me too, I guess I don’t think of “replica” and “clone” as synonymous in the context of animals.

Seems like a carefully chosen term, maybe clone being too controversial.

I think replicant would be a fun term though. :)

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