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Do women’s mate preferences change across the ovulatory cycle? (2014) [pdf]
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#22I don't know what an ovulatory cycle feels like; but, I trust Lindsay Doe's account [0] of how she feels across a given period. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLXxxHVOeec 11 minutes
It probably feels a bit like before and after ejaculation for a man, just it happens way quicker for men. Pretty sure if you studied that you'd find mens preferences in women changes a lot as well.
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#23I am not scientist enough to judge this, so please someone enlighten me: most categories i've read through that find a shift do so with an increase of about 0.1-0.2 standard deviations. that does not sound significant to me. is that enough to make the claims this study makes?
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#25Findings of TFA: Yes. Women show a robust increase in attraction to cues of ancestral genetic quality (body masculinity, behavioral dominance) on high-fertility days, but only when evaluating men as short-term/unspecified sexual partners, not long-term partners.
Which only supports my belief that with the proliferation of contraception tying sex and long-term partnership together is becoming a useless anachronism
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#26Many behaviors are determined by hormones. Men are no exception. When calm, men tend to prefer intellectual women, but when they're impulsive after drinking in a bar, they prefer sexy women.
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#27This research is one of the important studies in my own understanding of the world. I think it's the type of thing people are cautious to talk about too much because it might drive a certain type of person crazy and lead them to overcompensate in weird/destructive ways. I also remember there's a study on how hormonal birth control (which causes the body to perceive itself as pregnant) affects these preferences too. I…
In the end we’re just improvements on the worm/tube plan, and we run things based on chemical soup that is mostly inside our bodies these days, but whose composition has a significant influence on our behavior. Thats why it’s great to have a neocortex, so we con at least be marginally in control of our decisions if we maintain a consistent effort to do so.
But yeah, in my empirical experience, moon phases, ovolatory cycles, hormone manipulation therapies… all have a gigantic impact on our base physiological and psychological state. I live in a place where the insects operate on a lunar phase, and the plants proactively change their operations in that rhythm to match. You can taste and see the difference in tree sap here based on the lunar phase, it becomes thicker, darker, and more bitter days in advance of the insect hatching.
Why would we think we are somehow a special exception from the web of life that created us?
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#28Findings of TFA: Yes. Women show a robust increase in attraction to cues of ancestral genetic quality (body masculinity, behavioral dominance) on high-fertility days, but only when evaluating men as short-term/unspecified sexual partners, not long-term partners.
Can we summarize this as "people get horny sometimes" and "ovulating people get horny"? Or is that too reductive?
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#29This research is one of the important studies in my own understanding of the world. I think it's the type of thing people are cautious to talk about too much because it might drive a certain type of person crazy and lead them to overcompensate in weird/destructive ways. I also remember there's a study on how hormonal birth control (which causes the body to perceive itself as pregnant) affects these preferences too. I…
I love evolutionary psychology trivia but for me it's kind of hard to meaningfully fit 0.13 standard deviation shift in preferences into my world model.
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#30Findings of TFA: Yes. Women show a robust increase in attraction to cues of ancestral genetic quality (body masculinity, behavioral dominance) on high-fertility days, but only when evaluating men as short-term/unspecified sexual partners, not long-term partners.
Can we summarize this as "people get horny sometimes" and "ovulating people get horny"? Or is that too reductive?
I am guessing they are trying to make a distinction from mental horny vs physical horny