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Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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I wonder how many of the 25 million are people squatting on their family names and such. That's what I've done. I login once a week or so to make sure the account stays active.

How frequently must one log in (to modern email clients) in order to not be deactivated? Once every 5 months and 30 days?

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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I'd use the term "bullying" in this respect.

Are they just urging people to switch, or do they actually move them over without the user having a say in it?

I signed up for a 'comedy' outlook account without realising they would deactivate and migrate my hotmail account entirely.

I was probably dumb for not reading the small print but they're definitely pushing people over and inflating their 'growth' because of it.

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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I wonder how many of the 25 million are people squatting on their family names and such. That's what I've done. I login once a week or so to make sure the account stays active.

How frequently must one log in (to modern email clients) in order to not be deactivated? Once every 5 months and 30 days?

I think it's 90 days for hotmail/outlook, which is pretty short compared to gmail, which I think is a year. But, that would also explain why it's a lot easier to get the email name you want on hotmail/outlook.

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How frequently must one log in (to modern email clients) in order to not be deactivated? Once every 5 months and 30 days?

I think it's 90 days for hotmail/outlook, which is pretty short compared to gmail, which I think is a year. But, that would also explain why it's a lot easier to get the email name you want on hotmail/outlook.

If you're using a multi-account IM client(Adium/Pidign/etc') you can add the account there, and it will stay alive as long as you continue to use the client.

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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Jumped on my own name email address on Outlook when they relaunched the new look and I have to save I love it. I find it much easier on the eyes and in the UX department than Gmail. Gmail to me feels stale and over encumbered by labels and buttons and checkboxes. There are some thing about Outlook that do annoy me, mainly how it doesn't want to save my password in the login form and automatically fill it in. It's rid…

Among other things, I like push email. Gmail doesn't do that.

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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Are they just urging people to switch, or do they actually move them over without the user having a say in it?

Urging - regularly. I use a hotmail account for trash signups and they are pushing constantly.

Out of curiosity, how are they pushing? I just signed up for a new Hotmail account, and the only upsell I'm getting consistently is a small "Free Upgrade" link in the bottom left (which actually appears to be structured as an add, which is kind of strange).

By the way, you can opt into "Outlook.com" without getting a new email address. You can keep your same address but get the new Outlook.com experience, which is quite frankly much improved.

Disclosure: I work for Microsoft.

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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Jumped on my own name email address on Outlook when they relaunched the new look and I have to save I love it. I find it much easier on the eyes and in the UX department than Gmail. Gmail to me feels stale and over encumbered by labels and buttons and checkboxes. There are some thing about Outlook that do annoy me, mainly how it doesn't want to save my password in the login form and automatically fill it in. It's rid…

Bookmarklet to force firefox to remember any password, even on pages that have autocomplete=off (like outlook.com)

https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html#remember_...

Drag that to your bookmarks toolbar and run it once before submitting the form on the website you want to remember passwords on.

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they just urging people to switch, or do they actually move them over without the user having a say in it?

I signed up for a 'comedy' outlook account without realising they would deactivate and migrate my hotmail account entirely. I was probably dumb for not reading the small print but they're definitely pushing people over and inflating their 'growth' because of it.

You could have kept your old address and still gotten the "Outlook.com experience". You could also have created an alias and left your existing email address as your login. You chose to rename your account, which makes the new address your login, and also makes your previous address an alias (which means you'll still get mail sent to it, but it's no longer your login).

I'm not clear why you'd expect that your new address would be completely separate from your existing account. That would be a terrible experience for most people. "Sure, I'll upgrade to Outlook. Oh wait, now I have two separate accounts, with two separate inboxes, and two separate logins. I guess I'll just never use the new one, because it's a pain."

If you are unhappy with the outlook.com address you've chosen, you can rename your account again. (This link is harder to find than it should be, especially if you want an Outlook.com address.)

https://account.live.com/ChangeId?fl=nd

If you do want a completely new account, you should create one without "upgrading". Just log out (or open an InPrivate/Incognito window) and go to Outlook.com. From there you can sign up for an account that will indeed be completely separate from your other.

Disclosure: Microsoft employee

Re: Outlook.com breaks the 25 million active user mark, releases an Android

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What a coincidence, I registered yesterday. Must have been me ;) But seriously: WTF. It sucks so badly, that badly needs to be redefined. OK, it's much better then msn/live mail was... and redefining badly is perhaps a bit too harsh. But it still sucks. Did anybody see what it looks like? It is very clean. Boring even. And in chrome the screen is not even 100% height in the mail overview. (And sending mail from googl…

> Did anybody see what it looks like? It is very clean. Boring even.

I'm sorry that you don't like clean interfaces? The modern Microsoft interface aesthetic is minimal by design. It's not something that everyone loves.

> And in chrome the screen is not even 100% height in the mail overview.

That's because you don't have anything in your mailbox. It will expand as you get more mail. Gmail has the same behavior. You just happen to have a bunch of stuff sitting in your Gmail inbox.

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