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The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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It's strange that someone mentions socialism and then another person replies saying communism doesn't work. Are these two the same for you?

Well, they share the same core componnent of disregard for property rights and freedom of contract.

> disregard for property rights and freedom of contract

Are you complaining about taxation and regulation? Both are cornerstones of every successful state in human history.

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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It's strange that people look at the millions dead from starvation from communism, and the quite recent destruction of Venezuela, and still think communism can somehow work this time .

Deliberate starvation is more of a capitalist thing. It's not like China or communist parts of India have a big famine problem, while the US and their partners are causing famines in e.g. West Asia right now. Left wing policies actually work pretty well, this is why the US has spent so much resources undermining movements and states trying to implement them, and this is why the Soviet needed nuclear weapons to surviv…

A better example of capitalism doing actual famine would be the Irish Potato Famine, which was concurrent with the writing of the actual Communist Manifesto.

Communism has also had famine, famously both the Holodomor in the USSR and the Great Leap Forward in China.

The only thing that really seems to end famine, is a deliberate policy of subsidising the overproduction of food.

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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It's strange that someone mentions socialism and then another person replies saying communism doesn't work. Are these two the same for you?

Well, they share the same core componnent of disregard for property rights and freedom of contract.

Any form of centralized power is bad for the vast majority of civilization. always has been

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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It's strange that people look at the millions dead from starvation from communism, and the quite recent destruction of Venezuela, and still think communism can somehow work this time .

There is a significant difference between socialism and communism, Americans seem to purposely conflate the two, they are not the same.

Smells like "no true scotsman" fallacy because they are nearly synonyms. Nobody in USSR could tell the exact difference or at least there was no consensus, and you are expecting modern Americans to do better huh?

This basically sums it up:

> According to the Encyclopædia Britannica, "Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists' adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism#Communism_and_social...)

(To make it more fun Marxism is also its own thing)

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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Well, they share the same core componnent of disregard for property rights and freedom of contract.

Any form of centralized power is bad for the vast majority of civilization. always has been

I'm curious: what civilizations can you point to in which there has been no centralized power?

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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It's strange that someone mentions socialism and then another person replies saying communism doesn't work. Are these two the same for you?

For Americans it is. Meanwhile, in Europe (I don't know Latin America well enough, although I know a few well-known right-wing leaders that didn't have stellar records) socialist governments consistently have a better record on basically everything from press freedom to economy to public health compared to economically liberal ("centrist") governments. But they're socialist so it doesn't count.

I would call them market economies instead of socialist governments

Re: The Pentagon is running an AI propaganda mill targeting Latin America

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It seems some AI propaganda has already worked on you.

It's strange that people look at the millions dead from starvation from communism, and the quite recent destruction of Venezuela, and still think communism can somehow work this time .

Is this supposed to be an example of propaganda? The line that socialism killed millions uses the unfair standard of attributing wide categories of end-of-life to socialism but not to capitalism or Tsarism.
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