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NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

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Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#21

while this article is frustratingly light on substance, it should be no surprise the nsa would use anything and everything that could give them an edge. of course they would test out mythos, chatgpt-cyber, etc.

accurate and they probably had access already.

Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#22

The FT article has a lack of evidence of an actual operation. It claims Mythos is being used for "offensive cyber operations" in the first paragraph, but doesn't give a source supporting this claim. The lone piece of evidence given says Mythos "would be useful for" infiltrating China or Iran, which is a hypothetical, not evidence of an actual operation. None of that means the NSA isn't doing offensive work, my issue…

Right, and zero non-anonymous sources. A person plausibly "close to Anthropic" or vaguely "with knowledge of the situation" using the stock phrase "the best defense is a good offense"... this is not a news article y'all. It's speculation.

Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#23

I am all about NSA using this stuff as "Defense" but my main concern is their long track record of unconstitutional warrantless, or abuse of shadow courts, to surveil the people they're supposed to be protecting, and for nefarious purposes like spying on ex girlfriends [1] [1] - https://www.reuters.com/article/world/uk/nsa-staff-used-spy-...

Wait til you hear about other countries, to say nothing of Silicon Valley.

Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#24

The FT article has a lack of evidence of an actual operation. It claims Mythos is being used for "offensive cyber operations" in the first paragraph, but doesn't give a source supporting this claim. The lone piece of evidence given says Mythos "would be useful for" infiltrating China or Iran, which is a hypothetical, not evidence of an actual operation. None of that means the NSA isn't doing offensive work, my issue…

Right, and zero non-anonymous sources. A person plausibly "close to Anthropic" or vaguely "with knowledge of the situation" using the stock phrase "the best defense is a good offense"... this is not a news article y'all. It's speculation.

speculation, or marketing.

Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#25
This feels like a stupid idea, but it's not my tax money being wasted on it (yet).

An AI being used for offensive purposes would be so easy to counter due to Brandolini's Law. A much simpler AI could probably easily create dumb honey pot systems that looked like real systems with holes in them to lead more advanced and expensive systems on a wild goose chase.

Suddenly an AI creating security vulnerabilities is a core part of a future cyber defence strategy. Surely someone must be doing that already

Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#28

I am all about NSA using this stuff as "Defense" but my main concern is their long track record of unconstitutional warrantless, or abuse of shadow courts, to surveil the people they're supposed to be protecting, and for nefarious purposes like spying on ex girlfriends [1] [1] - https://www.reuters.com/article/world/uk/nsa-staff-used-spy-...

And most of that happened under comparatively good administrations. Imagine what’s been greenlit now.

Re: NSA using Anthropic's Mythos for cyber attacks

#30
post #7

""" It remains unclear whether Anthropic’s engineers are assisting the NSA in active operations. However, one person close to the situation said Mythos would be useful for infiltrating the networks of nations such as China or Iran. """

Mythos useful for infiltrating networks of China and Iran?

Anyone who’s read anything about Mythos would’ve said the same thing on day one. Didn’t need some anonymous vague source to tell you that.

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