Given that it's their turf, is it reasonable to consider sabotage by an Airbus-affiliated entity?
It was the same sniper that blew up that Starship
Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
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Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#22Not yet at the https://avherald.com/
Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#23I don't understand how that caused several injuries among a pretty small group (staff)?
Google says front wheel is about 1.68m. High but not crazy high. Plane body and people fall at same speed and it would be slower than actual freefall since the plane is vaguely balance-ish on rear wheels
I'm sure the reporting is right but feels counterintuitive to me
Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I duckduckgo'ed "nose gear collapse" earlier and it seems it may be an issue that's more common than expected? At least there were lots of images of airplanes with broken front wheels and the nose touching the floor.
This is a joke about "The Front Fell Off", a classic comedy video from a few decades ago.
Joke ? Those people were serious.
Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#25So a plane which has withstood probably countless landings, had its nose gear collapse while sitting statically at a gate of all times and places? Weird.
One post said that the plane was only 4 months old.
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#26Can someone tell me if this is just confirmation bias or is Boeing really going down this hard? I mean management was obviously tanking since the McDonnell Douglas takeover, but did it really take almost 30 years for this to shine through? Or were these things underreported in the last decades?
The 777 and 787 programs have never seen a passenger fatality resulting from an engineering defect. That is a monumental achievement in light of the passenger miles served. Boeing has its problems, but that record speaks for itself
This and we don't know yet what happened. It could have structurally collapsed - very unlikely, it could have uncommanded retracted, or maintenance has overridden the protections. I'd place my bets on #3, handling error in maintenance mode.
Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#27I don't understand how that caused several injuries among a pretty small group (staff)? Google says front wheel is about 1.68m. High but not crazy high. Plane body and people fall at same speed and it would be slower than actual freefall since the plane is vaguely balance-ish on rear wheels I'm sure the reporting is right but feels counterintuitive to me
If you are inside the cabin and not expecting, would be sliding down quite a bit.
Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#28Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#29Can someone tell me if this is just confirmation bias or is Boeing really going down this hard? I mean management was obviously tanking since the McDonnell Douglas takeover, but did it really take almost 30 years for this to shine through? Or were these things underreported in the last decades?
The 777 and 787 programs have never seen a passenger fatality resulting from an engineering defect. That is a monumental achievement in light of the passenger miles served. Boeing has its problems, but that record speaks for itself
From 787 wikipedia page: "On June 12, 2025, Air India Flight 171, an 11-year-old Boeing 787-8 registered as VT-ANB[398] operating from Ahmedabad Airport to London Gatwick Airport, crashed into the hostel building of B. J. Medical College shortly after takeoff. According to the preliminary Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau report released on July 8, 2025, the crash was caused by both engines shutting down after their fuel control switches moved from the "RUN" to "CUTOFF" position.[399]: 13–14 The cause of the switch movement remains under investigation. The report did not recommend any actions to Boeing, or 787 operators.[400][399]: 15 All but one of the 242 people on board were killed, as well as 19 people on the ground.[401] The sole survivor was a British national "
Re: Several injured in Boeing 787 nose-gear collapse in Frankfurt
#30Can someone tell me if this is just confirmation bias or is Boeing really going down this hard? I mean management was obviously tanking since the McDonnell Douglas takeover, but did it really take almost 30 years for this to shine through? Or were these things underreported in the last decades?
The 777 and 787 programs have never seen a passenger fatality resulting from an engineering defect. That is a monumental achievement in light of the passenger miles served. Boeing has its problems, but that record speaks for itself
Another thing I'd point out is how often planes regularly fell out of the sky as recently as 40 years ago - my first flight 32 years ago or so, they still had kiosks in the airport to sell you life insurance.
Even with the MAX and the recent (last ~2 years) spate of incidents, flying is safer now than it ever has been, and certainly safer than it has been over its lifetime.