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Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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Yea I watched stargate SG-1 and can confirm that plenty of media released post covid is not only half as great, but a good deal better.

Like what (in sci-fi)? Not counting the Star Wars series, the last independent good scifi show that I recall was The Expanse, the majority of which was pre-Covid. In fairness, Foundation is okay, but not great.

It's funny you mention the expanse because I find it similar to the stargate show. Solid, but in no way extraordinary. Now, I agree sci-fi especially TV has been a bit rough recently, but that's mostly because its not popular so there isnt much made, not anything to do with ability to make it.

Still, there have been sci fi masterpieces released recently. Dune being the most obvious. Not an original story but a far more worthy production than stargate sg-1. Everything everywhere all at once was also more compelling than stargate imo but this might be where your anti woke complaints come in. Nope also fits this bill, but fine you dont have to love that. There are still examples which have no wokeness at all as far as I can tell. I found the foundation show to be similar quality to stargate sg-1, perhaps a bit worse I guess but in no way definitively worse. Topically I found project hail mary to be good enough, certainly no worse than stargate.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

#22
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"modern wokeness", ah, yes. Because the show about religion as a means of control, that featured strong women throughout, was broadly about how colonialism is bad and the importance of respecting different cultures, that brute force was almost never the 'right answer' is anti-woke.

For example, look at all the recent Star Trek series; they have been an abomination, and are rightfully canceled.

State, don't insinuate.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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For those who don’t know (which seems to be the entire comment section at the moment), the new show is/was not a remake, they intended to follow on from the existing series. I was pretty optimistic after watching the announcement [0] that this would be a decent show. Here’s hoping they’ve developed it enough that they can shop it around. [0] https://youtu.be/e82uV9sBt4I?si=ZY3qO4o8r1DH5voG

Given the IP situation, is shopping it around even on the table?

Joseph Mallozzi says it's not, and he was involved with the new series development. I suppose Amazon is making enough from the concept that they aren't interested in selling it.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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The new Quantum Leap was terrible and most of the new Star Trek shows were equally as bad. Maybe this is a good thing.

When I first heard about the reboot all I could think of was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HeNZBItzps I'm going to call this news a win.

It wasn't a reboot, but a continuation. That doesn't mean it would have been good, of course (cf Universe), but better than a reboot.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

#25
post #15

For those who don’t know (which seems to be the entire comment section at the moment), the new show is/was not a remake, they intended to follow on from the existing series. I was pretty optimistic after watching the announcement [0] that this would be a decent show. Here’s hoping they’ve developed it enough that they can shop it around. [0] https://youtu.be/e82uV9sBt4I?si=ZY3qO4o8r1DH5voG

> From the existing series

Which one? Universe? Atlantis? SG1?

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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post #15

For those who don’t know (which seems to be the entire comment section at the moment), the new show is/was not a remake, they intended to follow on from the existing series. I was pretty optimistic after watching the announcement [0] that this would be a decent show. Here’s hoping they’ve developed it enough that they can shop it around. [0] https://youtu.be/e82uV9sBt4I?si=ZY3qO4o8r1DH5voG

> From the existing series Which one? Universe? Atlantis? SG1?

All of those are from the same continuity. (The show was not to be a remake/reboot, but also was not to be like, another season of one of the existing shows. I do wish they would just figure out how to finish Stargate: Universe... they even likely-purposefully left the plot/characters in a state where they could actually do the next season now, even after all this time, and even if some of the actors can't or won't be involved anymore.)

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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If you haven't seen Stargate SG-1, it was one of the greatest shows. I would rather rewatch it than watch a bad remake. Stargate Atlantis was not half bad either. They will likely hire the cheapest script writer, who in turn will likely offload it to the cheapest LLM, resulting in derivative work that is not in any way creative or inspiring.

"modern wokeness", ah, yes. Because the show about religion as a means of control, that featured strong women throughout, was broadly about how colonialism is bad and the importance of respecting different cultures, that brute force was almost never the 'right answer' is anti-woke.

I'm on season 6 of a rewatch with family right now, and I will say that one of the things I had not remembered was just how much of the time brute force IS the right answer in this show.

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the IP situation, is shopping it around even on the table?

Joseph Mallozzi says it's not, and he was involved with the new series development. I suppose Amazon is making enough from the concept that they aren't interested in selling it.

How would they make anything from it if they aren't going to make the show?

Re: Amazon Has Axed Its New Stargate Series

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If you haven't seen Stargate SG-1, it was one of the greatest shows. I would rather rewatch it than watch a bad remake. Stargate Atlantis was not half bad either. They will likely hire the cheapest script writer, who in turn will likely offload it to the cheapest LLM, resulting in derivative work that is not in any way creative or inspiring.

"modern wokeness", ah, yes. Because the show about religion as a means of control, that featured strong women throughout, was broadly about how colonialism is bad and the importance of respecting different cultures, that brute force was almost never the 'right answer' is anti-woke.

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