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Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"
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#22To be charitable to Ellison, it worked well in China.
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#23Quote from 2024 OP.
Some discussion then and since:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41562750
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#24What really gets to me is how big tech isn't even pretending anymore to serve society. They clearly feel superior to the rest of us and entitled to rule.
If you frame it this way in your mind you will be surprised when people pick surveillance over public disorder. If you don't like that world (I don't either) you can't bury your head in the sand about the problems it is solving, you need a "No, but... " framing where you give answers that actually work.
There is a ground-level appeal of the China-style panopticon because it delivers public order and clean streets. Larry didn't just buy his way to digital dictator by bribing the right people, it answers a question in a way other people are avoiding, because answering it requires a lot of work and uncomfortable tradeoffs.
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#25Reject Larry Ellison from civilization.
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#27What really gets to me is how big tech isn't even pretending anymore to serve society. They clearly feel superior to the rest of us and entitled to rule.
I think some of that is just Larry Ellison
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#28Look how well it worked for cops! I'm not suggesting we get rid of their bodycams, but it's easily gamed. It's one thing to be rich and enjoy the luxuries afforded by that, but to buy dominance over the very lives of others is when the angry mob retaliation is entirely justifiable.
In what way did it work well for cops?
From what I've seen it goes both ways with bodycam footage. The cops often have to put up with seriously dangerous stupid people and cops on power trips are video'd abusing people. Not that I am defending Ellison. Sadly the rich will always be able to buy their way out of most any bad situation except screwing over richer people.
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#29What really gets to me is how big tech isn't even pretending anymore to serve society. They clearly feel superior to the rest of us and entitled to rule.
You can understand why - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgpqeq82rvo They bought a country for pocket change. Jeff will be president within 20 years imo.
> Jeff will be president within 20 years imo.
It could be worse, it could be Musk.
Having seen what Americans will vote for, either option is possible.
Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"
#30What really gets to me is how big tech isn't even pretending anymore to serve society. They clearly feel superior to the rest of us and entitled to rule.
You can understand why - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgpqeq82rvo They bought a country for pocket change. Jeff will be president within 20 years imo.
exactly.. and in the near term, if not Jeff directly somebody like JD Vance who is a useful puppet for techbros