47 celsius is 116.6 fahrenheit.
47 degrees Celsius is also 27,5 meV
Mornings and nights no longer exist at 47C: A day in the hottest place in India
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#22Welcome to the future! What a lovely world we've created for ourselves!
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#23> Poor people don't have the luxury of worrying about the heat
Just.. damn man
> For eight or nine days, temperatures of 47-48C continued without a break
Wasn't sure if the night time temps stayed that hot due to some factor but it appears that's the daytime high.
> Overnight temperatures remain around 30C.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not everyone's footprint is the same, though. If I cut down my plane flight in half that means I'll take a plane every two years, meaning I'll also see my family half as much. You'd also have to include that, since I travel economy, you'd divide my contribution by ~350. If Taylor Swift cuts her plane travel by half she'd "only" make 51 trips a year [1] on a plane that carries 12 and would still make more money in a y…
I didn't say we're all equally culpable. We're not. Yet en masse we're all guilty to some degree. There's only what 10's of thousands Taylor Swifts in the world. Yet there's billions of everyone else. The majority of greenhouse gasses likely come from the aggregate of everyone.
But OP said exactly that: "We (meaning all of us) have broken our world for the greed of a few."
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not all participants are equal. You are conflating participation from equality, yes everyone participates in the system, it takes a lot of privileged to be able to disassociate ones self from the system itself. The power dynamic within the system favors the wealthy, whom have decided that this is the path we are going down.
Writing about "the wealthy" on a site like HN is always interesting. Who do you mean? The vast majority of HN commenters are 10%ers and very many are 1%ers. But there's always someone richer to complain about.
HN loves to nit-pick about what "the wealthy" actually means, but in most contexts, when someone complains "the wealthy" did this or "the wealthy" did that, what they mean are a very, very tiny number of people who are not on HN, not in anyone on HN's family, and not intimately known by anyone on HN.
When someone says "the wealthy" are getting rich to everyone's detriment, they are almost never talking about the doctor who lives three doors down the street from you who drives a nice new 911 or the guy who owns 20 laundromats in your city. I think we all know who we're talking about.
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#26I wonder if data centres are as bad as cities for urban heat island effect
The physical footprint of a data center is far smaller than a city, so that would limit heat island effects that arise from things like surface albedo (which are only material over large areas). In terms of raw heat dissipation though, an exceptionally large data center could compete with a small city.
Yeah, but I’m wondering if they are hotter or more consistently hotter than a city which while hotter than a forest still has trees and parks etc.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not all participants are equal. You are conflating participation from equality, yes everyone participates in the system, it takes a lot of privileged to be able to disassociate ones self from the system itself. The power dynamic within the system favors the wealthy, whom have decided that this is the path we are going down.
Writing about "the wealthy" on a site like HN is always interesting. Who do you mean? The vast majority of HN commenters are 10%ers and very many are 1%ers. But there's always someone richer to complain about.
Are they guiding policy and making decisions at corporations or just living within the existing framework? He's talking about the people shaping the world and future.
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#28I wonder if data centres are as bad as cities for urban heat island effect
The physical footprint of a data center is far smaller than a city, so that would limit heat island effects that arise from things like surface albedo (which are only material over large areas). In terms of raw heat dissipation though, an exceptionally large data center could compete with a small city.
Not when a datacenter is the size of manhattan
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#29We know that cutting down trees increases heat and intensifies drought but we continue to do it, how bad do things need to get before we reverse course?
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Human land use is incredibly inefficient. As a simple example, in the US the vast majority of corn production is ethanol or animal feed (which is incredibly inneficient on a calorie basis). Then when you take into account low density residential and their endless lawns (turf grass has by far the most acres of any crop in the US) and a million other poor uses of land and there's a lot we can do, even at 8 billion people, without destroying every forest.
The issue isn't that the problem isn't solvable, there are tons of things that have huge environmental benefits. The problem is that these generally require some sacrifice (e.g. denser housing with much smaller lawns, eating more resource efficient foods like lentils, moving away from fossil fuels) but there's not sufficient collective will for actually doing these things.