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OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Re: OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS

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Post by cebert »

easton wrote: post #9
Handy-Man wrote: post #2

More expensive than directly sourcing from OpenAI

The AWS pricing page says 10% more than OpenAI, which is probably because they’re forcing all inference through the US and data residency is at a 10% premium from the model vendors for whatever reason (because you’ll pay for it). If they put in a global endpoint like with Claude (or OpenAI directly) then it’ll probably match the direct pricing, if the pattern holds. ( https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/ , scroll…

It’s even more expensive for GovCloud customers. We pay a 30% premium on top of that.

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #18
cortesoft wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contracts and the force of law?

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Actually yes, when it’s other huge corporations holding them accountable. It’s only when politicians who are much more cheaply bought get involved that creates problems. When the other side has a significant war chest to combat you with, suddenly behavior improves

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Post by 650REDHAIR »

rho138 wrote: post #12
ykl wrote: post #10

If you've used AI coding models in a large corporate setting, you'll know that a lot of big corporate deployments basically require using AWS Bedrock for two simple reasons: 1. Large companies tend to already have an existing relationship with AWS, which makes things way easier to go through vs. setting up a new vendor relationship 2. Large companies tend to have strong internal requirements about making sure that in…

How is one certain bedrock data isn’t being shuttled to external providers?

Bezos and Altman pinky-promised and are super trustworthy.

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Post by nh2 »

rho138 wrote: post #12
ykl wrote: post #10

If you've used AI coding models in a large corporate setting, you'll know that a lot of big corporate deployments basically require using AWS Bedrock for two simple reasons: 1. Large companies tend to already have an existing relationship with AWS, which makes things way easier to go through vs. setting up a new vendor relationship 2. Large companies tend to have strong internal requirements about making sure that in…

How is one certain bedrock data isn’t being shuttled to external providers?

In contrast to Microsoft, OpenAI, and Anthropic, AWS has never done anything close to sneaking in unwanted training opt-outs after the fact.

They are the only ones I trust not to do that so far. And their terms are extremely clear on that, no fuzzy language. Exactly what we want to see. So we use Bedrock.

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Post by trollbridge »

jofzar wrote: post #17
rho138 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is one certain bedrock data isn’t being shuttled to external providers?

What other people are saying, but also because Amazon does not want to fuck around in this space. They don't want the legal fight or the reputational damage that would come with it.

They also don't really stand to benefit from doing so, unlike basically everyone else in this space.

They have access to a ridiculous amount of private customer data and so far have not shown any predilection to misusing that access.

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Post by xingped »

trollbridge wrote: post #26
jofzar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other people are saying, but also because Amazon does not want to fuck around in this space. They don't want the legal fight or the reputational damage that would come with it.

They also don't really stand to benefit from doing so, unlike basically everyone else in this space. They have access to a ridiculous amount of private customer data and so far have not shown any predilection to misusing that access.

To take an easy example that has actually had lawsuits I can link to, you must be unfamiliar with the lawsuits against Amazon for misusing sellers' data in order to undercut them with their own products... https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/13-bln-uk-lawsuit-acc...

There's zero reason to "trust" Amazon about anything. (And yes, I know the retail and AWS sides of the company are different, but it's still the same company. The same rot is always there, just shuffled around.)

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